00:31.7
But currently, you are not recognized legally as the father of your daughter.
00:38.0
This is what I'm here for, to ask help to be able to mention as her father in her birth certificate and have visitation right.
00:45.5
Okay, so when was the last time that you spoke with Anne regarding this one?
00:50.4
We messaged each other two days ago.
00:52.2
I already saw my daughter maybe three days ago.
00:53.9
But are you still in a relationship with each other?
00:55.5
No, no, no. We are not in a relationship.
00:56.7
So you go back here in the Philippines every once in a while to visit?
01:00.1
Yeah, this is my second time.
01:01.1
Okay, how long are you staying here?
01:02.5
I'm gonna stay maybe one month.
01:04.1
You have tried to reach out with Anne for this?
01:06.4
Yeah, I already saw my daughter two times.
01:10.1
She allowed me to see her.
01:10.8
You opened up the topic again of you being the...
01:13.2
All the time, I'm opening the topic. All the time.
01:15.5
This is my only concern.
01:16.9
What does she say?
01:17.9
She don't want you.
01:19.7
Okay, but you support your daughter?
01:22.5
Anne, good afternoon.
01:23.2
Good afternoon po.
01:25.2
Miss Anne, si Bash nandito sa studio natin ano?
01:29.8
Actually, he's always been the father for my daughter.
01:34.0
And I never hide my daughter to him unless he's doing something that it's unacceptable.
01:41.0
By example, this time, he came back to the Philippines.
01:45.3
And then last, if I'm not mistaken, Thursday.
01:48.8
And then he told me two days before that.
01:51.3
And then I told him, you are most welcome.
01:54.1
And you can come here and you can see your daughter.
01:57.0
I told him like this.
01:58.1
And then I accepted him.
01:59.8
And then we even went outside.
02:03.0
I accompanied him and my daughter to roam around my daughter.
02:07.8
And then after that, what happened?
02:10.1
We went to S.M. Pampanga.
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And then after that, I'm trying to put my daughter asleep.
02:15.1
And then my daughter doesn't want because she's around.
02:17.8
Then he said, if he can take out my daughter for a ride like this.
02:22.9
And then that time, we have actually our house is back side of the old house.
02:29.8
So, technically, we have a pathway.
02:31.6
And then one of the tricycle of my uncle is like, he cannot pass by because of the tricycle.
02:38.1
And then what he did, he shouted on my uncle.
02:40.7
He's saying that next time, don't let anybody pass and so and so.
02:45.8
I have messaged him that please, if next time, if you have problem with my family, if you don't like something,
02:53.1
if you don't, if you hate something, don't, if you are angry, talk to me.
02:57.3
So, I will talk to my family.
02:58.8
And I will, I am.
02:59.8
The one who will tell them what's the problem.
03:02.7
The issue here is, what's keeping you from having Sir Bash as the legal father of your daughter?
03:12.8
First and foremost, when I found out that I am pregnant, he is asking me to abort the baby.
03:19.9
I have my reasons why I asked for abortion immediately.
03:23.4
I'm not going to talk about it now.
03:25.4
But mostly, it's about not trusting any word that she's saying.
03:29.8
First reaction was abortion.
03:31.8
When she said no, I went along with it.
03:34.0
I supported her from the time she conceived my baby till now.
03:38.3
And I will always support my girl.
03:40.2
I love her more than my life.
03:41.4
Actually, actually, attorney, we've been together for a long time.
03:47.2
Then, he's telling me a lot of stories that he had a wife before and he got divorced.
03:52.3
And then, the wife got multiple pregnants.
03:55.4
But he's asking for abortion.
03:57.7
Not only from me, but from the.
03:59.8
People or the previous relationship that we had, he asked for abortion.
04:06.8
So, in his mentality, he don't want a child.
04:10.2
If I don't want a child, what I'm doing here?
04:12.9
I try all my ways to get to see my daughter.
04:17.7
Anyway, this is all doesn't matter.
04:20.6
Is she my daughter?
04:21.8
And if yes, I want to be recognized as her father legally.
04:25.8
They are asking what is preventing.
04:28.3
All your reason is.
04:29.8
Irrelevant about the fact that I am her father or not.
04:32.6
I got pregnant in UAE way back then.
04:35.1
And then, I came back to Philippines to deliver because I cannot deliver there because we are not married.
04:39.3
I landed to Davao because I didn't have vaccine and that's the only port that is available because it's during pandemic.
04:48.3
Then, when I landed there, the first thing I found out that he had a girl the same day I left UAE.
04:55.4
So, that time, I know that it's not good.
05:02.7
But you cannot avoid being hurt, especially when you are pregnant.
05:07.4
That time, I cried and I had to go to emergency room.
05:13.2
The OWA staff brought me to public hospital because they are not sure if I am positive or negative through the COVID.
05:25.4
Then, after that, my mother called him.
05:28.6
What's happening?
05:29.3
And then, he called me.
05:34.8
While his daughter is inside my stomach.
05:39.6
I was six months pregnant and he knew.
05:42.1
In all this, would you say that Bash doesn't love or care for your daughter?
05:47.8
When the child is still not outside of this world, I may say that he doesn't.
05:52.6
Because I asked him multiple times that don't smoke around me because your daughter may...
05:59.8
Because it's secondhand smoke.
06:01.4
But he never listened to me.
06:02.9
This is bullsh**.
06:03.8
What is the main reason you think that's keeping you from having Bash acknowledge as the father?
06:11.4
This is another reason for me, sir.
06:13.0
Before, when he told me that he wants an abortion, I told him,
06:18.1
No, I will raise this if you don't want it.
06:20.8
And he said, No, if you will keep having the baby, I will take it from you.
06:25.7
He said like this, I will take it from you if you don't want to stay with me.
06:29.3
Just go and I will keep the baby.
06:31.5
I will not give you my daughter.
06:33.5
This is what he told me clearly.
06:36.3
So your concern here is that if your daughter becomes acknowledged as the daughter of Bash,
06:44.9
you fear that Bash will take your daughter from you?
06:49.4
Yes. One of the main reasons.
06:51.2
I was thinking of that.
06:52.5
It may be one of the main reasons why you are hesitant to have Bash acknowledged as the father.
06:57.9
But I think all in all...
06:59.3
Your daughter will benefit.
07:01.1
It will be for the best welfare of your daughter if Bash will be acknowledged as the father legally.
07:07.7
At the very least, your daughter could enforce support on her father, Bash.
07:14.2
And maybe Bash could enjoy some form of visitation rights which would be better
07:19.5
or which would be best for the development of the child.
07:23.1
Actually, sir, I never stopped.
07:25.6
Last time, September, he was here.
07:29.3
I let him stay here for the last week that...
07:32.1
For the last week, he stayed here in her house.
07:36.5
I never stopped him seeing his daughter.
07:39.1
And second, second of all, he always threatened me, sir.
07:41.9
I have proof that 2022, he sent me a message,
07:47.2
I will send someone to kill you.
07:49.7
You will just be surprised.
07:51.3
Your head will only cost 50,000 pesos.
07:54.1
This is what he...
07:55.8
This is bulls**t.
07:57.7
I have proof, sir.
07:59.6
You cannot say that this is bulls**t.
08:03.2
I'm gonna not let you talk about lies anymore.
08:07.1
I heard enough of lies.
08:08.5
All of this doesn't really matter about the fact that I am her father
08:12.8
and I have the right to be recognized as her father.
08:16.4
All your stories, I don't care about your stories and doesn't matter to me anymore.
08:21.4
Your manipulation lies, I cannot hear it anymore.
08:24.1
All what I want, my daughter to be named after me and I have visitation rights for her.
08:29.0
I allowed you to visit her, but...
08:30.8
It's not up to you to allow me.
08:33.0
This is my right.
08:34.4
It's not up to you to allow me.
08:36.0
It's not you allow me.
08:37.3
Maybe, Ms. Anne...
08:37.8
Someday you don't allow me.
08:39.6
This is my right.
08:40.7
Maybe, Ms. Anne, we could come to a common terms
08:43.3
wherein it would be acceptable for both of you
08:46.0
so that Mr. Bash could have his way with being registered,
08:50.6
acknowledged as the father of your daughter.
08:52.5
Is there a possibility of that happening?
08:57.1
He mentioned to your staff,
08:59.0
before that he proposed to me.
09:02.4
That's true and I will not deny it.
09:05.6
Anne, Anne, Anne, that's irrelevant for this one.
09:09.4
We're just talking about your daughter.
09:11.4
When I told him, when I told him I'm ready to be cool for, or to fix everything.
09:17.4
Actually, I have messages to him.
09:18.9
Let's not fight, let's not fight, let's not fight, at least when you are here.
09:22.7
But it cannot be happen, sir.
09:24.4
I don't want my daughter that every time that we are together,
09:27.8
my daughter will see that,
09:28.9
and he is angry, he is shouting, he is cursing me.
09:32.0
We are fighting in front of my daughter.
09:33.8
My daughter now is two years old.
09:35.3
She understands things already.
09:37.7
I don't want her that she is seeing us fighting all the time.
09:41.7
I don't want her to witness that.
09:44.2
Ms. Anne, we're not talking about your relationship with Bash.
09:47.8
We're just talking about the co-parenting arrangement.
09:50.6
That would be the best for your daughter, I think.
09:53.0
I understand, sir.
09:53.8
But what I am saying, all I'm asking from him,
09:56.4
first, he should learn how to respect me,
09:58.7
First, he should learn how to respect me,
09:58.9
First, he should learn how to respect me,
09:58.9
when I am around, of his daughter, sorry.
10:02.2
And second of all, he should respect people around
10:05.9
when he is around people.
10:08.3
Because clearly, if he is mad with something,
10:11.1
even with the daughter, he doesn't care.
10:14.4
He will shout, he will curse, he will fight.
10:17.4
So what do you want to happen, or what do you want Bash to do
10:21.2
so that you may be satisfied that he has learned his lesson
10:24.3
or he has learned to respect you?
10:26.5
Mr. Pastor, I have asked him to,
10:28.8
to check for his anger management problem, really.
10:32.5
This is what I'm asking from him.
10:34.7
He should learn how to manage his anger,
10:37.8
especially in front of my daughter.
10:39.5
If he takes anger management classes,
10:41.9
you would be willing to have him acknowledged
10:44.1
as the father of your daughter?
10:45.9
For the acknowledgement, sir, that's not in my,
10:50.9
I couldn't, I couldn't say yes right now, sir.
10:53.2
I couldn't say it right now until I see it.
10:55.7
I, until I prove that he has changed.
10:57.8
This is not your role. This is not your role.
10:58.7
This is not your right, dear. This is not your right.
11:00.3
You are, you are taking decisions that is not yours.
11:03.4
This is also my daughter's decision.
11:05.8
I'm asking you, why now?
11:07.2
When I give birth, why you didn't go home?
11:09.4
Why you didn't go home?
11:10.1
I didn't go home because you didn't tell me
11:12.1
that I need to be here so for you to name me as a father.
11:16.2
You told me after this, after you get born
11:18.3
and you went to the UAE.
11:20.5
Again, I will not go on and on
11:23.1
with your lies and manipulations.
11:25.6
I am, I actually, I, if I, if I knew that,
11:28.4
I will talk with you, I would not come here.
11:30.4
I came here asking for help from them
11:32.8
to acknowledge me as a father of my daughter.
11:35.8
I don't want to listen to any things.
11:37.9
If you want to talk, talk to them, not to me.
11:40.0
That's the thing.
11:40.6
Your, your, your, your lies and manipulation will never end.
11:45.3
We need to settle things between me and you.
11:46.7
I don't care about you.
11:47.8
I will not settle anything about you.
11:49.5
You don't mean anything to me.
11:51.4
What I need is my daughter.
11:53.1
That's not, are you here?
11:54.4
We're trying to find common ground for the both of you.
11:56.6
We're trying to fix this.
11:57.4
How to find common ground?
11:58.4
If she's, keep lying.
11:59.6
Ms. Anne, I think, personally,
12:01.9
your request for him to take anger management,
12:04.4
is it for you to continue having a relationship with him?
12:07.0
No, sir. No, sir.
12:08.4
But I, last time, for example,
12:10.5
he choked me in front of my daughter.
12:12.7
Just imagine my daughter will grow into this kind of situation.
12:17.2
That my daughter will leave, that it's okay.
12:20.0
It's okay that I'm, my mother is being hurt.
12:23.7
My mother is, in the future, if she will have husband,
12:29.9
Ms. Anne, if you are being physically hurt by Bash,
12:33.9
you could always file a case against him so that...
12:37.2
I filed, I called the police in UAE, sir.
12:39.9
I filed a case in UAE.
12:42.0
That means that when my daughter is around him,
12:45.9
he will not be behavioral, you know,
12:49.7
because usually he is angry.
12:51.5
Last time we were in the mall,
12:53.6
salesman is offering him a sparkle.
12:56.1
Usually, hi sir, hi mom.
12:57.9
Ms. Anne, you're saying at the end of the day,
12:59.9
if he takes a anger management class
13:02.9
and he, you see signs of development in him,
13:06.9
you would be willing to have,
13:08.9
to let him be acknowledged as the father of your daughter?
13:11.9
From my side, sir, I couldn't say yes right now
13:14.9
until I proved so.
13:16.9
Until I proved so that I'm seeing a change with him,
13:20.9
I cannot say anything right now.
13:24.9
It's not your decision to take.
13:26.9
This is my daughter's decision and my decisions.
13:29.9
Actually, under the law,
13:30.9
you could execute an affidavit acknowledging paternity.
13:34.9
However, so that the proceedings do not become adversarial,
13:40.9
it is always best to get the consent of the mother
13:43.9
because they could object if they do not consent
13:46.9
with the instrument that you are claiming
13:49.9
to be the father of the child.
13:51.9
You could have been told that.
13:53.9
That is why I am trying my best really
13:55.9
so that the two of you could come to terms.
13:57.9
We will never come to terms.
13:59.9
If that is what you think, sir,
14:01.9
this negotiation will already fail.
14:03.9
That is why I've been trying to have you talk.
14:07.9
I'm trying to find common grounds.
14:09.9
Are you saying that if she say no,
14:12.9
that I don't have the right to?
14:14.9
You could, but it would take longer
14:16.9
because they could contest it.
14:18.9
They could contest your affidavit.
14:20.9
That is why I am trying my best here
14:22.9
to have you come to terms, okay?
14:25.9
But as to the documents,
14:27.9
we could help you with that.
14:29.9
You could submit.
14:30.9
But definitely, they could and they would object.
14:32.9
That is what I think.
14:33.9
That is why prior to us filing the documents,
14:36.9
I think it is better if we could iron it out
14:39.9
so that the parties will jointly file
14:42.9
or will jointly agree that you are indeed the father
14:45.9
and that the records will reflect
14:48.9
that you are indeed the father of your daughter, okay?
14:51.9
But I think in this case,
14:53.9
well, we can crush.
14:56.9
so maybe as help to you,
14:58.9
we could help you draft the documents
15:02.9
it is subject to their objections, okay?
15:04.9
We would file that with the local civil registry
15:07.9
where your daughter was born
15:09.9
or where her birth certificate is currently registered.
15:12.9
I think it's in Calumpit.
15:17.9
their side will be heard in all this
15:19.9
before it will be approved.
15:21.9
Not sure if I understood this already.
15:23.9
So the fact that she will approve or not approve
15:26.9
will change my daughter's DNA?
15:28.9
Will alternate my daughter's DNA?
15:30.9
Well, we might be required.
15:31.9
There might be an instance.
15:33.9
You are not getting...
15:34.9
I get your point.
15:35.9
On the scientific standpoint,
15:36.9
you are the father.
15:38.9
So I am father no matter what she thinks about?
15:40.9
Yes, but we are talking about the legal standpoint.
15:43.9
you have no relation to your daughter,
15:45.9
legally speaking,
15:46.9
because you do not appear in the birth certificate of the child.
15:49.9
So that's what I am discussing here, okay?
15:52.9
So that's what we want to remedy.
15:54.9
So your options here are
15:55.9
for you to file your affidavit of paternity,
15:58.9
acknowledging paternity,
16:01.9
because there is an opposition,
16:03.9
it might take a while
16:04.9
and it might not be approved,
16:05.9
legally speaking, okay?
16:09.9
maybe while we are doing this,
16:10.9
maybe you could also try to talk to them.
16:12.9
Ask Anne what she wants to happen here.
16:15.9
Maybe take the first steps with the anger management class.
16:18.9
Just so, just so.
16:19.9
All lies against.
16:23.9
I'm fed up with her.
16:26.9
I just want to prove to my daughter in the future
16:28.9
that I asked for her so many times.
16:30.9
And let my daughter find me in the future.
16:33.9
In any case, sir,
16:34.9
that's the legal recourse you have
16:36.9
and we are willing to help you in this one.
16:39.9
Thank you so much.
16:44.9
as a matter of caveat,
16:45.9
it might be objected to.
16:46.9
Maybe our staff will talk to you about the logistics
16:47.9
Thank you so much.
16:48.9
when we'll do it,
16:49.9
when we'll file, okay?
16:50.9
Thank you so much.
16:51.9
Sir, can I have a question?
16:53.9
If ever that he will threat
16:55.9
or say something threat again with me,
16:58.9
can I file a case against him in immigration?
17:03.9
still I have the proof that he threat me,
17:06.9
that he will kill me and pay someone to kill me.
17:10.9
Is it possible for me to file a case against him?
17:13.9
That's a different issue,
17:15.9
but assuming it's true
17:16.9
and you have the evidence to back it up,
17:18.9
you have all the right to file.
17:21.9
what you will do is,
17:22.9
we will just talk to you in the other studio,
17:27.9
But what you need, ma'am,
17:28.9
the most important thing here, ma'am,
17:29.9
is what is good for the child.
17:32.9
What Sir just brought here is,
17:34.9
the custody or the visitation rights,
17:36.9
the name of the child,
17:39.9
that's what Sir brought here.
17:42.9
Talk to him properly.
17:45.9
Just tell me what you want.
17:46.9
Maybe Bash can comply.
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Thank you very much.
