TRILLANES VS. BATO: ICC ARREST WARRANT
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At ito na ngayon, yung panahon na yun, at siya naman ngayon yung hindi mapakali.
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Basang-basa mo yung nervyose sa pananalita niya, sa demeanor niya.
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At well, tingnan natin in the weeks to come.
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Mukha ba nga na, sir?
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Mukha nasa panic mode na ba itong sinasanator Bato?
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Tsaka itong sinadating Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte?
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Based ito sa mga nakikita at nadidinig natin over the past several weeks?
01:56.8
Yes, it's very obvious na nagpapanic na sila.
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At alam mo, sa totoo lang, mahirap matulog niyan.
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Maninikip yung dibdib niyan.
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Kaya sana, hindi naman sila bangunguting in the process.
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O ano, kasi kailangan talagang makita ng taong bayan na managot yung mga nag-aabuso ng kapangyarihan.
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Eh, magtanda, para yung mga susunod na generasyon ng mga political leaders,
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ano niya na yan, talikuran niya na yung ganyang kalukohan.
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Ginawa na yan kung sino-sino ang mga leaders sa mundo in world history.
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Kung nagbabasa ka lang ng world history, ginawa na yung mga purging, ano na yan,
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na mindsets, ano, sila Hitler, sila Pol Pot, kung sino-sino pa.
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And it did not end well for them.
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Kaya magtatakaka rito sa mga ito, they were given that chance, no?
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Six years, grabe yung mandato kay Duterte noong 2016.
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Yung naniniwala sa kanya, daming nagsapalaran sa kanya
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because they wanted change, ano?
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Tapos the very same people na nangako sa kanila ng change,
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sino pa pala yung papatay sa kanila, magpapahirap.
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Bakit tila sinayang yun, no?
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Yung bang, di ba kayo nagbasa ng history man lang sa elementary
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at gagawin nyo yung alam nyo na na palaging hindi magandang ending
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dun sa mga ganyang gumagawain.
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Just to refresh also the memory of,
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our viewers, baka iba nagtatanong,
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bakit kinakausap si Senator Sonny Trillanes?
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Kasi kayo po yung isa sa mga pinakauna na dumulog doon po sa International Criminal Court
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para papanagutin itong si Duterte at yung kanyang mga henchmen
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dito sa alleged crimes against humanity.
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Yun po yung konteksto ng discussion natin.
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Pero correct me if I'm wrong, Senator, no?
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Napapansin ko lang, each time na you will go public about
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dates about the ICC, parang automatic yung reaction
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nitong sinasenator Bato, nila Duterte, tama ba?
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Mukhang nagre-react.
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Kaya nga, and alam mo yun, yung kaganya nila Panelo, nila ko,
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sino-sino yung mga magsasalita, iinsultuhin ka lang,
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insultuhin ako, it's as if it can change the course of the ICC investigation.
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No matter what they say, insultuhin man nila ko,
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lukohin nila yung publiko, yung ICC investigation will just take its course.
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Pero time and again, palagi ko nga nire-refresh yung memory ng mga viewers
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or listeners tuwing interview ko na nung finile namin yung ICC,
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I can remember the same people na proudly, confidently saying na wala yan,
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news clippings lang.
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Yung basihan, walang, ano yan, tainted yung mga testigo, questionable,
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ganyan, basura lang yan, basura.
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Biglang nag-declare ng preliminary examination,
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eto na naman, wala yan, ganito, ganito, libro.
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And yet, tuloy-tuloy yung progreso ng kaso.
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Tapos yan, dumating dito yung ICC at mismo sila na nag-confirm nun.
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So nung December, tapos ano na,
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nandi dito na tayo, yun nga, based on our information,
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palapit na tayo ng palapit dun sa most important issuance of warrant of arrest.
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Can you elaborate further dito?
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Kasi mga ilang beses niya rin binanggit, no?
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Ang prediction niyo is second quarter, maglalabas ng arrest warrant ng ICC.
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Can you talk about how credible that information is that you got?
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Di sinabi natin nun, di ba, na late second quarter, lalabas yung warrant.
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Remember, ano lang ito,
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I'm getting the information from persons who are privy to the investigation.
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While it is true that the ICC is engaging with me
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as part of the first who filed the communication with the ICC,
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pero yung mga updates sa progreso na investigation,
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eh bawal yan, ano, na makuha, na sabihin nila sa akin directly.
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So I'm getting it elsewhere.
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At ito naman, sabi ko nga,
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simula nung pag-update sa amin nung yun nga,
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preliminary examination, investigation, pati yung pagbasura nung, ano ah,
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nung apila ng gobyerno at that time,
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itong pagpasok sa Pilipinas,
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lahat yun ina-update ko eh.
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I may be off by a month or two,
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ando doon sa ballpark,
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ano, doon sa window.
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Ang nakalap ko nung,
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nung early part of the year,
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is lalabas ng late second quarter of,
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Now, sabihin mo nang mag-spill over pa ng,
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pag sinabi kasing late second quarter,
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Assume mo na na mag-spill over ng July,
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basa't mga ganun,
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will file the application for warrant sa pre-trial chamber.
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yung pre-trial chamber na ang mag,
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magde-decide at mag-i-issue ng warrant na yun.
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mga track record ng mga pre-trial chambers,
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pagka nag-file ng application for warrant,
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kung gaano katagal lumalabas yung warrant,
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from the application of the warrant.
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We will just, ah,
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extrapolate from there.
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Kumaga hindi siya yung tipong, ano lang,
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hinugot lang sa hangin.
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galing sa Department of Justice
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na naghahanda raw silang legal briefer na ibibigay kay Pangulong, ah,
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doon sa mga senaryos kung sakaling maglabas ng arrest warrant ng ICC.
08:54.2
Anong basa niyo rito?
08:56.2
Mukha bang may pagbabago doon sa tono ng Marcos administration regarding their, their existing position,
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not to cooperate with the ICC?
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I'm trying to be, ano, no, ah,
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more objective dito sa pagbasa ko ng mga statements sila.
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Kung maalala natin, late last year, sinabi mismo ni si President Marcos na siya mismo, ah, in his own words,
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they're studying the option of pre-entering the Rome Statute or the ICC.
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That was late last year.
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Then, ah, mga early this year,
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nagsabi naman si Secretary Boeing Rimulya na pinag-aaralan
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yung posibilidad na mag-ah,
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mag-engage or, ah,
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ah, papasukin yung ICC.
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So may mga ganong statements.
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Then yung mga hard non-cooperation positions.
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Yung pagtitignan natin yung mga positions na yun, ah,
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Eh, totoo naman, sasabihin ni President Marcos, no, we will not cooperate, we're no longer members, we will not recognize their jurisdiction.
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Totoo yun in the context sa termino niya.
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Again, sinasabi natin, at sabi rin ng Korte Suprema, November 2011 up to March 2019, covered pa rin ang jurisdiction ng ICC.
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So, in other words, sa termino ni President Marcos, talagang wala na ang jurisdiction ng ICC.
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And whenever he says that, he's being truthful.
10:39.2
Okay. Totoo rin na yung pagka nagkaroon ng warrant, eh yung since hindi na tayong member ng ICC, eh hindi makukumpel yung ating local police force to enforce the ICC warrant.
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However, ang hindi nakikita rito, yun ang pagpadaan ng ICC ng warrant through the Interpol.
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So, yun yung kwa na yun, tapos, at pag pinadaan yun, at pinaasa sa Pilipinas, meron ng bagong dimension, which is yung international agreement natin with Interpol, which we are bound to comply, no?
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Kaya yung statement niya yun, pag tinignan mo yung statements nila since last year, pag kinumbine-combine mo, ito na ngayon, no?
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But still, we are very happy.
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Na ilabas nila yung ganitong position na medyo mas, ano ka na, mas neutral at the very least.
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Tapos, pag-aaralan na yung iba't-ibang mga options.
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So, we're very happy with that development.
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But, as like I always say, President Marcos, sa ating tansya, at hindi natin siya pinapahunahan,
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ang basa natin, he will say what he needs to say.
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But in the end, he will do what he needs to do.
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Hindi rin po kaya, no, dinadangle din ito ng Marcos administration in response dun sa patuloy na pag-back-back sa kanya
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nitong si Rodrigo Duterte at sampunang kanyang mga taga-suporta.
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Pinagmumuro naman siya, diba?
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Patakot-takot yung banat sa kanya dito sa Dumaguete Rally.
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Kasi kung mag-aalyado pa rin sila up to now, medyo mabigat na personal decision yun.
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But still, the pressure will be there.
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Kahit ka-aalyado sila ngayon, if the pressure will mount and the calls will mount for accountability and justice,
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No on the spot pa rin si President Marcos.
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But, itong open war nila at yung attempts ni Duterte to oust President Marcos certainly didn't help his case, no?
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Or it hastened yung decision-making process ni President Marcos as regards the ICC case.
13:28.1
Nabanggit niyo po itong alleged plot, no?
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And nabanggit niyo po ito recently sa ilang panayam.
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Can you talk more about this?
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Itong alleged plot to oust President Marcos.
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How credible is this?
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And how soon ba yung plano?
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Itong ouster plot na ito, hindi ito una, no?
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At hindi rin naman ako yung, ako lang yung nagsabi nito.
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Remember, again, late last year, nagsabi mismo yung AFP chief of staff, kinukumpirma niya na mayroong mga recruitment na nangyari
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for this top four.
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Sa loob ng hanay ng AFP.
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Pero, since last year din, we validated that information na while mayroong recruitment na ginagawa,
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pero wala pa silang nare-recruit sa hanay ng AFP.
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Ngayon, itong information na ito, itong buong ouster plot na ito, ongoing ito, no?
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Continuing, active ouster plot.
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So, galing po ito sa, ano mismo, sa Intel community, no?
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At nakukuha din natin, nakakalap din natin sa iba't iba pang mga sources on the ground.
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So, meron po tayong proseso ng pag-collect ng information at meron din tayong proseso ng pag-validate na information.
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So, ngayon, ito na po ito.
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So, dinidiseminate natin kasi kailangan malaman ang mga babae natin na meron mga ganito,
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itong galawan underneath all of these seemingly isolated events, no?
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At importante yan kasi kailangan makita nila at mapigilan nila yung ouster plot na ito
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dahil dapat hindi natin payagan na mag-assume ng presidency itong si Sarah Duterte
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or makabalik sa pwesto.
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Yung Duterte family in general, no?
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Yan po ang ating pre-ne-pre-empt.
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Yung sa PNP naman, nanay ng PNP, yung mga kasama naman dyan,
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eh yung mga dabaw group din, no?
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Merong, actually, dalawang general, pero sa Mindanao, no?
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Mindanao-based sila, Mindanao-assigned.
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Compare mo dun sa...
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total number of generals sa PNP, eh maliit na porsyento yan.
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But, tsaka identified na sila at minomonitor na sila sa kanilang mga paggalaw, no?
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Meron din mga retired PNP officials na kasama dun sa mga galawan na ganyan.
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Dun naman sa AFP side, may mga retired din na pilit pa rin nagre-recruit.
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Hanggang magkaroon ng opening.
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Kaya nga, ito na ngayon.
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So, may ganyan na mga reports, ano?
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Mga meeting, recruitment.
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Tapos, meron naman yung communications plan.
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Ito na nga, papasok tayo dito sa hearing ni Senator Bato de la Rosa sa Senado
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na parte ng communications plan.
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Kasi alam niyong giveaway.
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Dito, eh, it is a non-issue, ano?
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Galing ito sa blogger ni Duterte.
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Tapos, nag-motopropyo, ano siya?
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Alam niyo po yung motopropyo, ginagamit yan
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pag talagang extremely urgent yung issue na kailangan imbestigahan, no?
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Kasi ano ba yung normal...
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Of course, ito yung magkakaroon ka muna ng initial research
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and vetting process, investigation,
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yung mga documentary evidence, yung mga testigo,
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i-de-vet nyo lahat yan.
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Tapos, pagka-satisfied ka na that itong issue na to warrants Senate investigation,
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gagawa ka ng resolution at i-file mo sa Senado.
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Tapos, ipapas yan on first reading,
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i-re-refer yan sa committee mo.
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And then, that's the only time na pwede ka mag-schedule ng hearing.
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So, kumbaga, ganito yun.
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That's how we do it bago kami mag-imbestiga.
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Kaya may malinis, ano?
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Ang proseso talagang thorough ang pagsisiyasat.
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Itong sa kanya, she north-cut niya yun.
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Bakit niya she north-cut?
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Kasi meron silang timeline.
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Kailangan nilang, yung communications plan nila,
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kailangan swap dun sa timeline nila.
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Besides, ang risk na mangyayari ni Duterte,
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ay ni Bato, na hindi niya tinik,
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was kung mag-file siya ng resolution,
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tapos makikita nung mayorya,
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sasabihin nila, teka muna, ano ba itong iimbestigahan mo?
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Medyo ano to, no?
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You don't just go out and...
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Indicate a sitting president na, ano, titignan nila yan.
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Kailangan medyo malalim-lalim yan.
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At pwede nilang i-refer sa rules committee yan para mapag-usapan.
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Yun yung natatakot siya sigurong nung delay na yun.
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That would be at least a two-week or three-week delay.
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Kaya siya nag-motopropyo nila.
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It's very evident na part ito ng buong ouster plot.
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Speaking of this ouster plot,
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ano po ba yung target in terms of consummating it?
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Kailan nila target na mapababa o mapatanggal sa pwesto si BBM?
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Well, as soon as possible.
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Kasi based on our last count, pang lima na ito.
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So every opportunity na meron, susubukan nilang bumutas.
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So ang tingin ko ang modelo nila dito is parang yung EDSA 2.
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Yung ma-agitate yung taong bayan.
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Tapos yung agitation na yun, yung social volcano na sinasabi nila,
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eh gagamitin nila yun to recruit active members of the AFP.
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Tapos eventually, pag nakita nilang meron ng overwhelming popular support,
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eh mag-withdraw sila ng support from the president.
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Yan yung based dun sa mga galawan.
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Mukhang yun lang ang pwede nilang ma-pull off.
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Kasi yung traditional coup, kailangan yun.
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Prevalent yung recruitment.
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Very, very dapat.
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Marami yung disgruntled.
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Mararamdaman mo yun.
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Ngayon kasi parang wala eh.
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Kasi sa totoo lang, while the Marcos administration,
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faultless or hindi siya perfecto,
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pero wala pa rin nakikitang justifiable reason to oust President Marcos as president.
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Kaya ito ngayon, may bagong issue na naman sila.
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Diba, noong December, early January, yung pulboron video,
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sinubukan nila yun, mag-agitate.
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Maraming mga retired officials doon na nasunog.
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Nag-pirma-pirma pa nang kung ano,
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nung mga manifesto, tapos kaso, nag-fizzle out.
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Tapos ngayon naman, itong PIDEA leaks, sinubukan nila.
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Subukan lang bumutas.
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Early on pa, ginamit nila yung AFP retirement law.
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Maraming disgruntled noon sa AFP.
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Pero yung popular support, hindi pa naguguhitan eh.
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social outrage, ano, for whatever issue.
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So, hindi nagsaswap.
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Pero nakorrect na yung AFP retirement law na yun.
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Then next, yung pension reform law, no?
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So, kumbaga, may ganun eh.
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ganun mga issues na ginagamit nila,
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hoping to agitate the general public and the ranks of the AFP.
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Kumbaga, para may social...
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engineering of sorts na nangyayari, no?
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Para galitin yung mga tao.
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Kaya nga po, kaya ako natanong yung timeline.
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Kasi kung binabanggit nyo, latter part ng second quarter,
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or baka pwede mag-spill over,
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umabot hanggang third quarter, I don't even know.
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Pero hindi kaya yun din yung hinahabol na timeline
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nitong alleged plot to oust President Marcos.
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Naunahan yung issuance ng arrest warrant?
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Palagay ko, incidental na lang yan ngayon.
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Kasi kung titignan mo yung mga galawa nila last year,
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wala pa namang ganun na ICC eh.
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Kasi nung time na yun, on appeal pa yung ICC.
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Hindi pa nag-de-decision.
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Tapos medyo mahaba-haba pa sa investigation process, no?
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Ngayon, talaga may sense of urgency na sila.
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Parang make or break na sila dito.
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But when they were trying to oust President Marcos last year,
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wala pang ganyan necessarily.
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Ngayon, may panibagong dimension dito.
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Yung June 30, no?
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Date na mag to two years na nakaupo ang si President Marcos
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tsaka si Vice President Sara Duterte.
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Now, based on the Constitution,
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pag lumagpas ka ng June 30,
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therefore, less than four years ka na
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sa remaining sa termo.
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So, pagka nag-assume ka o nag-succeed ka as...
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acting President for whatever reason,
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whether impeachment, withdrawal of support,
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or death, o kung ano man,
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eh pwede siyang maging eligible siya to run
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for re-election in 2028.
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And that matters kasi yan yung GMA model, no?
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Yung mga planners nung ouster ni Erap nun,
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hindi pa sila tumotodo until na lagpasa nila yung
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two-year threshold na yun.
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Tapos, they went all-in.
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Kaya, naka nine and a half years ng presidency si GMA.
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Kumbaga, i-serve lang yung natitira.
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Kumbaga, pwede pa rin tumakbo sa susunod
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para mas mahaba yung termo, no?
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Yung pala yung logic na, no?
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So, in this case,
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gaano po ba kaseryoso itong threat na ito
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to House President BBM?
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And taken together, yung pagbakbak sa kanya
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ng mga Duterte, ng mga kaalyado,
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yung Paul Boron issue, yung PIDEA leaks.
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Can BBM actually withstand this onslaught na nakikita natin?
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Based on the present circumstances, yes.
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Maui-withstand niya.
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Kasi tinatamaan si, yung popularity ni Duterte.
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Tapos, na ano niya eh.
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Nabibisto na yung mga nagre-recruit.
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Naka-forewarn na rin yung mga active AFP officers
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na may ganitong mga recruitment.
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So, ito yung mga, ano eh,
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things going against the Duterte camp.
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But, sabi ko nga, historically,
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nung panahon ni ERAP, ganyan din eh.
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Kumpiansang-kumpiansa.
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Very popular si ERAP sa military.
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Compare pa niya si, yung chief of staff, si Leite.
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Si Leite Angie Reyes.
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Tapos, yung, ano, well, ano sila.
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Kumbaga, well-covered yung box nila sa Senado.
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Palaging bilangan yan.
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Hindi sila makakapag-produce ng one-third.
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Kung sakali man, hindi nila kaya makapag-produce ng sixteen sa Senado.
26:20.5
They were very confident.
26:22.5
And, they got complacent.
26:24.5
Nagkaroon ng isang opening.
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Parang house of cards yan,
26:30.5
pag nagkaroon ng opening.
26:31.5
Kaya, sana hindi naman ganyang
26:34.5
magkukumpiansa yung Marcos administration.
26:39.5
meron ng historical president yan.
26:44.5
E nga, given this, ano, this onslaught from the Dutertes,
26:49.5
does it still make sense po na
26:53.5
kinikip ni President Marcos si,
26:56.5
Sarah Duterte, sa gabinete?
26:58.5
Na ganon pa rin yung treatment niya sa Vice President?
27:01.5
Kahit ganon yung ginagawa naman kay BBM
27:04.5
nitong pamilya ni Sarah Duterte?
27:09.5
Merong, merong wisdom din siguro yung pag, ano yan, kung paka
27:15.5
keep your enemies closer, di ba, na tinatawag.
27:18.5
Para lang, ano yan eh,
27:21.5
dito ka muna para ma-disarm sila, ma-off-guard sila.
27:25.5
It will confuse them.
27:26.5
Or, it can be used later.
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Or, ipang he wants to deal with the Dutertes one at a time.
27:34.5
Maraming pwedeng wisdom eh, behind this move.
27:38.5
We may not agree with it.
27:40.5
Yung mga straightforward na, ano,
27:45.5
kaalasan, ipa-fire ka lang agad,
27:48.5
may mga potential backlash din naman yun, di ba?
27:51.5
Baka, baka mag, baka hindi disimulation.
27:55.5
So, baka baka hindi disimulation eh.
27:56.5
Sino yung mga sa paghahimap.
28:00.5
baka maka-gain pa ng sympathy.
28:03.5
So, I really don't know, no,
28:06.5
yung rationale behind it.
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siguro, baka ano lang.
28:14.5
Para lang hindi ma-consolidate further yung ranks ng Dutertes.
28:19.5
But, I feel, sooner or later tatanggalin pa rin.
28:22.5
Tatanggalin pa rin sa pwesto.
28:23.5
Kasi magiging, ah,
28:25.5
Antenable eh kasi incompetente, no?
28:28.1
Ang laki ng problema ng DepEd ngayon,
28:31.3
at walang ginagawa.
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At ang report sa DepEd head office ay bihira talaga pumasok si Sarah Duterte,
28:42.9
So parang yung mga subalterns lang niya yung nagpapatakbo ng DepEd,
28:50.0
which is, magsabihin nun, walang reforms na ginagawa,
28:54.4
walang new ideas.
28:56.6
It's just, ano lang,
29:00.1
kung baga kung paano pinapatakbo ng mga teacher yung classroom,
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di gano'n na lang.
29:24.4
Isisigaw bunyog, bunyog, bunyog.
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