PART 3- PDEA LEAKS | JINGGOY ESTRADA VS. AGENT MORALES
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When you say that I am entertaining, I am legitimizing falsehood, I...
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Oo, siyempre, na-out siya doon. Kasi parang sinabi daw ni Jingo Estrada,
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na nag-i-entertain o kaya nilegitimize ni Sen. Bato yung falsehood, masakit nga naman yun.
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I would like to disagree that we are not entertaining...
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Pero, mga kabatas natin, natural lang na mag-disagree.
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Ang nakakatawa lang ako dito, mga kabatas natin, pwede rin palang maging ano, no?
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Si Morales, no? Kasi meron na daw campaign, eh.
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Campaign sa, ano, sa Morales for Senator, mga kabatas natin.
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Kasi nga, ginawa niyang resource person din dito si, ano, eh, Jingo Estrada, eh.
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Di ba? Nilabasan niya rin ng conviction, eh.
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Thank you for this reminder.
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Hindi naman kaya na tayo nagkakaroon ng hearing to hear everyone.
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Para pakinggan natin sila.
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Wala po tayong hidden agenda dito.
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Yun ang problema ko.
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Wala silang hidden agenda.
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Pero, parang wala rin silang agenda.
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Parang sayang oras, sayang pera lang.
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Okay. I agree. Sige.
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I will say, or I will admit us true what you said.
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I will say, wala kayong hidden agenda.
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Pero, parang wala din kayong agenda.
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To, to, to evaluate.
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Yung mga sinasabi lang kung totoo ba yan o hindi.
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In fact, si Morales mismo, totoo ba yan?
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Ah, tingnan na siya.
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To, to, to evaluate.
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Yung mga sinasabi lang kung totoo ba yan o hindi.
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It's up for us daw.
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So, bahala na kung ano yung gusto mong isipin yun na yun.
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Which is not good.
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You should have, if you are ferreting out the truth,
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or if you are a fact-finding committee,
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you have to lay down processes, di ba?
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For you to be able to come out with the truth.
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Kung kunwari ang usapan eh, sige, bahala ka na kung ano yung paniniwalaan mo.
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Is that actually...
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coming out with the truth?
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Or ferreting out the truth?
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O totoo ba yan o hindi?
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In fact, si Morales mismo, meron siyang mga sinasabi na pinapaniwalaan ko,
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meron din siyang sinasabi na medyo alanganin ako.
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May pinapaniwalaan ka, pero yung iba medyo alanganin lang.
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Pero ang punto doon kasi,
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ang nire-reklamo,
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yung nangyari kasi kay Morales,
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it's very obvious na,
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na doon nga sa statement mo,
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na may mga pinapaniwalaan ka,
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yung iba alanganin ka lang.
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when you admitted that the document is an authentic or true document,
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you admitted everything already.
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When you declared it as pedialyx,
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you admitted it already.
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Kung baga, mga kabatas natin,
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yun lang naman ang kailangan malaman ng iba.
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kailangan pa ba nila ng mga specifics?
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I don't think so.
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Because people understand the big picture already.
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Just to sit the record straight,
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and the rest are sure,
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I will do my best as the chairman of this committee,
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Very good. Very good. Please do it.
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Stop these hearings already.
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...daming itong committee na ito,
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Maganda yung sinabi ni James Kevin dito.
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Morales leaks dapat tawag dyan.
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PDA already denied it.
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...any hidden agenda,
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or any political or personal agenda,
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ng ibang taong...
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Not PDA leaks. Good one.
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Dodge the dumb lies.
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itataya ako ang buhay ko dito,
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sa hearing na ito.
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Ito yung lagi kong sinasabi sa inyo eh.
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parang, parang you really want to be heroes.
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You are so fond of those,
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itataya ako yung buhay ko,
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magsasacrifice ako.
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Parang awan yun ah.
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If you will invoke those lines,
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sacrifice yourself
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for something useful.
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itataya mo yung buhay mo dyan,
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sa wala namang pakinabang.
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Talo ng papel ang bato.
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Parang sasabihin ko na ano,
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itataya ako yung buhay ko
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para makakain ako ng ice cream.
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Wait, sandali lang.
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Anong klaseng sakripisyo yun?
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pag itataya mo yung buhay mo dyan,
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aren't you betraying the people who voted you?
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Para saan ba yung hearing nyo na yan?
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objectivity and neutrality
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is concerned. That's all.
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Objectivity and neutrality.
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Chairman, Mr. Chairman.
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Mr. Taurito is seeking the floor
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if you may allow.
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Even without inquiring
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as to the nature of the testimony
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that would be given by the
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surprise witness.
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May we know, Mr. Chairman, kung nakapanumpa
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na ba yung surprise witness?
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you are not objecting, ha?
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You are not objecting to the presentation of this witness?
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We rely on the ruling of the chair.
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Well, I rule in the spirit of
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fairness. Kahit na hindi ko siya
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invited, since siya
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ay invited ang ating colleague din.
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Yeah, so tapos na ngayong ruling.
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So what's the point
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in discussing it? Oh my goodness.
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Pakinggan ko. Pakinggan natin.
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I'm willing to hear.
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I rely on your ruling. I'm not so sure about the sentiments
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You want to share your sentiment?
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By the way, I would like to
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acknowledge the presence of Sen. Taurito.
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Senators Kudero and Sen. Bungo.
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Thank you very much to your honors.
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Dumadamin akong kasama dito.
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Lumalakas na yung loob ko.
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Alam niyo, sa tingin niyo,
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efekto ba nito yung
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nagdrama siya noon?
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Na pag nakikita niyo dito, mag-isa ko lang dito.
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ibang mga kasamang senador.
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Di ba nagdrama siya ng gano'n noon?
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Kaya ba sila pumunta
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Sabi ni Regina Manangan,
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sayang ang pera na ginagastos
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dyan, attorney. Marami pang dapat talakayin
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na mas importante. Waste of time.
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Marami na ako reinforcement.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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Probably conditionally, Mr. Chairman,
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because I want to be surprised too.
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I don't know the nature of the testimony to be given
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by the witness of Sen. Jingoy.
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But I'm willing to
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go along with the chairman's ruling to allow
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It's not, it's not
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you who will decide anyway.
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Kaya nga may chairman kayo.
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You can, you can object.
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But if you, if you are not objecting,
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there's no use talking.
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Just for the meantime.
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Well, thank you. Thank you. As I have said,
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no holds barred ako dito.
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Kahit sino. Pakinggan ko.
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Tama. Kahit sino. Kahit si Morales.
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We have a hearing.
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Para pakinggan natin.
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before you continue.
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You want to say or...
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Sabi ni Sen. Dong,
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We paid that session
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because we want some comedy.
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I miss Home Alone.
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Dari, dari, less.
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Wala na si Dol...
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May open statement nga?
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Go ahead, Sen. Jingoy.
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Pwede natin unayin yung St. Luke's, baka haba hinihintay natin yung ating witness.
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Unayin natin yung St. Luke's.
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What about St. Luke's? Anong tanong natin dito?
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Tungkol dun sa time...
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Ah, yung two minutes na drug test.
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Sino yung nagsabi ng two minutes?
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Yung nakalagay dun sa report dun.
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Yes, nabasa ko, nabasa ko.
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Two minutes daw na drug test.
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Oh, ito na naman si Morales.
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You were the one who signed this?
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Can you just explain before the committee?
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Ano raw yung kinocomplain lang yung two minutes laps or whatever?
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Two minutes and fifty-four seconds.
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Before you answer the question, please introduce yourself.
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Two minutes and fifty-four seconds, that's three minutes.
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If you round it off.
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Para malaman namin yung qualifications mo, ma'am.
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Good morning po. I am Dr. Maria Cecilia Lim.
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I am the laboratory head of the drug testing.
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Before that, Doktora, I'm sorry to interrupt, Mr. Chair.
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Can we have our surprise witness be seated here?
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Sa inyo yung surprise nila.
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You know him very well, Mr. Chair.
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In back, another former PDA Chair here, PDA Director General.
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Former PDA Chair here, PDA...
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Former PDA Chief.
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Of course, you know him very well, Mr. Chair.
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In back, another former PDA Chair here, PDA...
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Director General, General Kakdak.
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My former senior officer in the PNP.
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Kahit na may sakit siya, pumunta siya dito.
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Hmm. Tignan niyo.
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May sakit siya mga yan?
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Pinapunta niyo diyan?
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Sa likod, pumunta siya dito.
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So, thank you, sir, for coming over.
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And also, my upperclassman.
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Former officer of the PNP.
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General Felicardo Serapio.
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You didn't let your underclassman down.
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Where do we start?
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With the surprise?
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So, head po ako ng drug testing laboratory ng St. Luke's Medical Center, Global CT.
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So, yung 2 minutes and 54 seconds po, kaya po talaga ng drug testing kit.
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Mabilis pong lumabas yung resulta.
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Yung mga sinasabi po nilang 5 minutes, yun po yung maximum time na i-a-allow namin na lumabas yung line.
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Kung hindi ka kasi marunong...
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Parang itong si Morales. Si Maharlika.
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Creneticize ng creneticize yung isang bagay na ganun pala dapat.
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2 minutes, 2 minutes.
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Wala namang palang problema.
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Kung kuse nyo, maximum pa yung 5 minutes.
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O Morales, ilang minutes ba talaga dapat ng drug testing?
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O Morales, ilang minutes ba talaga dapat ng drug testing?
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Pinapaniwalaan nyo agad eh.
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Wala na sanang kwenta ito. Hindi na sana nasayang yung oras nitong...
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Nitong resource person.
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Nagtatrabaho na sana siya dun sa St. Luke's.
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Nakapag-test na muna na sana siya ulit ng maraming ano.
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Pag lumabas po yung linya,
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hindi na humawawala yun.
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Negative na kayo.
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Pero yung naghihintay kayo na mag-a-appear yung linya,
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hanggang 5 minutes po yung maximum.
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40 to 50 seconds, may resulta na po.
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Ano? 40 to 50 seconds? May resulta na po?
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Mahaba na pala yung 2 minutes!
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Tapos ang pinapaniwalaan nyo si Morales.
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Basta sinabi ni Morales, oo nga no? Oo nga no?
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Lab technician ba yan?
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O di ngayon, anong nangyari sa inyo? Sunog!
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So yung doubt nila na 2 minutes...
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Anong doubt nila?
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Doubt nyo, Morales!
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Na naging doubt nyo, kaya dinalaan nyo yan dyan.
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It's sad to see these elected government officials making the Senate a circus.
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Mga convicted pa nga ang iba.
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Mga Pilipino pa rin ang may problema dahil konting barya na ibibigay sa kanila
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na galing din sa kaban-bayan.
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We need new leader with your intentions to serve the people of the country
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like Mayor Vic Osoto.
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Mahaba na pala yun.
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So fast. It's not improbable and it's not impossible.
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Come on! You don't need a hearing to know that.
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What? Just call her.
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Uyili niya ba lumabas, Doktora?
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Please identify yourself.
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I'm Jerez Array as the drug analyst from St. Luke's Medical Center, Global City.
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So as the analyst po, may lumabas po na line.
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So sa drug test kit po natin, meron dun yung control line at saka yung line for the drug analyte.
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So dun po sa risulta, may lalabas po dapat siya talaga na line as negative.
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Will that satisfy everything?
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Circus comes to town.
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Permission of Senator Chingoy.
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Permission of Senator Chingoy.
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On this point, Doktora Fernandez and to Ms. Reyes, yung two minutes and fifty-four, fifty-seven,
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fifty-four, ito yung oras na lumipas mula nung inilagay yung sample dun sa makina hanggang
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lumabas yung risulta.
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Sir, hindi pong makina.
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Ito po ay drug test kit na para pong pregnancy test kit or para yung COVID.
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So parang ginagawa na?
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I-drop mo lang yung urine sa 1N, tapos hihintayin mo na lang siya.
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So wala pong makina.
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Hindi ito yung kabuoang proseso ng kinuha yung urine na two minutes lang?
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Yung transaction time po is the specimen collection.
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So pag-abot po nung sample, tapos gagawin na niya.
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At yung rule ng DOH hindi pwedeng lumampas ng?
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Wala pong rule ng DOH.
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Hindi pwedeng mas mabilis kesa?
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Ano yung limang minutong binabangit niyo po kanina?
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Yung drug test kit po na ginagamit ng?
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Hindi po yung ginagamit namin. Hanggang five minutes po pwede niyong basahin.
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Now, I remember the press con of then Executive Secretary, no he was not yet Executive Secretary at that time, he was about to be, Vic Rodriguez.
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Sabi niya tinest daw po sa lahat ng uri ng droga. Ano na pong klase ng droga tinest o lahat po ba kasama?
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Kanina po? Kay...
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Yung test po na ginawa ninyo?
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Cocaine lang po ang pinagawa.
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Cocaine lang po ang pinagawa?
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Hindi po kasama ang iba?
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O pwede pa, pwede pa. Baka shubs naman, shubs.
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Yung result ngayon po ba ay sinapubliko?
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I saw it on GMA, read it in the papers. The results of the drug test.
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If I may answer...
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At nagaling po sa amin?
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If I may answer, Senator Archis, this was widely publicized in 2021, if I may recall, if my memory serves me right.
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Or it was publicized, ma'am?
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It didn't come from St. Luke's.
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It came from the person tested.
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So, Mr. Senator Archis, yung drug test na ito, na pinag-uusapan na ito, yung sinabi ni Secretary Rodriguez,
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This pertains to the drug test that you made on the former Senator Bongbong Marcos?
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Sabi mong sabihin?
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So, you said that particularly cocaine ang tinitest ninyo. Why cocaine?
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Yun po yung hiningi niya.
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Ano na ako, tunan naman tayo.
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Yung inaakos sa kanya na ginagamit siya ng cocaine.
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Kasi nga, yung inaakos sa kanya na ginagamit siya ng droga.
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Alam ka naman sasabing gumagamit ka ng kokaina tapos magtetest ka ng marijuana.
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President Marcos?
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Then na Senator Marcos.
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Yun ang gusto niyang hingin about cocaine?
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Yun po lang ang hiningi niya.
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So, your laboratory is capable?
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Of tracing cocaine residues sa ihi ng pasyente?
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Kaya nga nagtest eh. Hindi capable.
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It's not capable.
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Yung ginagamit siya sa cocaine, iba yung ginagamit siya sa cebo.
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I think so, Mr. Obvious.
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Iba rin gagamitin ninyo sa marijuana.
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Iba rin sa pregnancy test.
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Iba rin sa UTI test.
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Pero kung ako, walk-in lang ako.
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Pupunta ako doon sa iyo.
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I want a drug test.
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Anong gagamitin ninyo?
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Kung ano pong hihingin ninyo.
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Oo. May ganun ba na hingin?
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Hindi, ikaw na lang!
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Huwag ka na lang mag-Senator!
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Ikaw na lang yun, oh!
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Sa same talks ka na magtrabaho.
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Lahat ng tao dito sa Pilipinas, magpa-drug test.
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Huwag nyo ba nagtatanong na i-test nyo ako sa cocaine?
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I-test ninyo ako sa cebo?
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I-test nyo ako sa marijuana? Wala.
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Kasi lahat ng tao dito sa Pilipinas, magpa-drug test.
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Anong gagamitin ninyo?
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Kung ano pong hihingin ninyo?
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Oo. May ganun ba na hingin?
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Kunwari, alam nyo dito sa ano no,
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may isang school dito sa Manila
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na nag-a-apply yung anak ko.
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Nag-require sila ng drug test.
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So kailangan namin magpa-drug test.
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ay yung gusto nilang makita na drug test nung anak ko.
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So siyempre, pinag-drug test namin.
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Of course, negative.
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Requirement ng school eh.
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Sila yung hihingi kung ano yung mga substances na i-tetest.
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So ano ang i-tetest po?
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Ito, shabs, tapos MJ.
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Ano nga naman pagpunta mo doon, i-tetest ka sa lahat?
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Eh, ikaw yung magbabayad?
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Kasi lahat ng tao dito sa Pilipinas magpa-drug test.
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Huwag nyo ba nagtatanong na i-test nyo ako sa cooking?
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I-test nyo ako sa Cebu?
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I-test nyo ako sa Marihuana? Wala!
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Pupunta ako sa inyo magpa-drug test para pag mag-negative,
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dalhin ko yung dokumento, nag-a-apply ako ng trabaho.
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Nag-a-apply ba dito?
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Nag-a-apply ba dito ng driver's license?
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Kasi kahit driver's license, di ba mga kabatas natin?
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Nakalagay doon eh.
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Kung ano yung mga drugs na tinetest doon eh.
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So i-tetest ka sa lahat.
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Ilan ba ang prohibited drugs sa mundo?
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Akala nyo kasi, siguro, akala nyo.
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Ewan ko, pero PNPJP.
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Akala nyo, siguro, ang drugs lang.
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Pagbabanggitin ko kasi na naman yung mga yun eh,
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marire-restrict na naman itong video na ito eh.
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Magre-read na naman eh.
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Pero mga kabatas natin, no?
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Firearm license, oo.
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So firearm license.
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May drug testing din doon.
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May specific drugs.
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Kasi ang daming abused at saka prohibited drugs.
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So like for example, fentanyl.
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Abused drug din yan.
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Abused drug din yan.
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I-google mo lang ang dami-dami.
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O may mga psychedelics pa.
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Yung mga shrooms.
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350 ang drug test sa NBI.
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So i-tetest lahat sa'yo yun?
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PNP chief pa siya.
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Ang ginagawa natin, hindi naman kami nag-request sa inyo ng,
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i-test niya ako sa cocaine.
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I-test niya ako sa Cebu.
26:24.3
I-test niya ako sa Marijuana.
26:27.3
Papunta ko sa inyo.
26:28.3
Please, conduct drug test.
26:31.3
Dalhin ko ito sa in-apply ako ng trabaho.
26:36.3
Bakit i-specify na cocaine?
26:43.3
Actually po kasi.
26:46.3
Nagtas-tas pa ng boses.
26:48.3
Anyway, baka basta natin lipat tayo sa kabila.
26:50.3
Let's start from there.
26:53.3
Na-tutoy natin dyan.
26:54.3
Naraming salamat po.
26:55.3
Matulog po tayo ng mahimbing dahil alam natin,
26:57.3
na yung natutulog ng mahimbing, siya yung laging panalo.
