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Papakita dapat natin through satellite images na ito yung before the destruction makita mo.
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Makikita naman ng satellite yung mga contours ng coral reef.
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Tapos after a certain date, wala na. Hindi mo na makita.
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Inubos na ng mga Chinese fishermen.
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Kasi dun sa ilalim ng coral reef, yung andun yung mga giant clams.
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Patay na yung mga giant clams. Matagal na.
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Kaya lang, napakahalaga yun.
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Kasi yung giant clams, yung shell, yun ang mahalaga doon.
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Parang tawag ng China dyan, ivory of the sea.
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So, kinakarve nila yan parang ivory and very expensive.
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Kasi yung giant clams.
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Pag malaki na yan, hindi na makalangoy yan.
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Hindi na makalakad.
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So, they are overgrown by the coral reefs.
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Kaya to get the giant clams, sisirain nila yung coral reef.
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Kaya inubos siyang coral reef sa Rosal Reef and Skoda Shoal.
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Ngayon, yung coral reef, that is the breeding ground of fish.
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Dyan na nanganak yung mga isda.
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They give birth to their young.
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Sir, pag nawala yung coral reef, wala na silang breeding ground.
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Wala maubos na yung malilit na isda.
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Yung malilit na isda, yun yung kinakain ng malaking isda.
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Tsaka yung malaking isda, kinakain ng mas malaki pa.
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Ang final dyan sa food chain, tayo.
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Kinakain natin yung mga malalaking isda.
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Pero pag wala yung malilit, magko-collapse yung food chain.
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Mawawala yung malalaki.
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Kasi wala na silang pagkain.
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So, importante, the coral reef should remain.
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Kaya, even the unklos, nakalagay doon, we must protect the marine environment.
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Kasi, everybody agrees na you need that to sustain the fish.
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Para yung mga isda will continue to live there and regenerate.
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Kung uulihin mo man sila, mayroong papalit.
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Pero pag inubos mo,
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sinira mo yung habitat nila na natural breeding ground, mawawala sila.
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So, we are filing that to recover damages.
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Pag nag-abla tayo, tas nanalo tayo, may damage award, let's say 1 billion pesos,
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paano natin collectahin yun?
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May utang tayo sa China, di ba?
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May utang tayo sa Kaliwa Dam, sa Chico River Pump Project.
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We can offset it.
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So, ang isang case natin, yung distraction to the marine environment.
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Yun bang binabanggit niya na parang offsetting ng utang?
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Is it as simple as it sounds?
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Sakaling manalo man tayo dito sa ikinakasang arbitration case against China?
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Well, kasi mayroon ding offsetting under international law.
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It's simple lang.
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Hindi natin bayaran.
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Sabihin natin na ito, may utang kayo sa amin, may utang kami sa inyo, mag-offset yan.
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So, hindi lang tayo babayad.
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Yun ang efekto niyan.
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Parang binabayaran na tayo tuloy for the damages.
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Dito naman, sir, ang target.
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Nasa atin yung pagbayad.
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So, we can withhold that and then bayad na tayo.
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Dito sa arbitration case, sir, can you talk about the process?
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Kapareho po ba ito ng prosesong sinunod natin na nag-file tayo ng 2013 sa Permanent Court of Arbitration?
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And dito, how did you start?
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You established clearly that it's China that is at fault and China should pay for damages.
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Yung proseso pareho.
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We will file, tawag nila statement of claim.
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We give a copy of the statement of claim to the Chinese embassy in Manila
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and we give it also to the UNCLOS in The Hague, no?
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In Hamburg, doon ng headquarters ng UNCLOS.
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We give it to the president of the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea.
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So, ang gagawin ng president ng International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea
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require China to respond in terms of nominating now the arbiters
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kasi there will be an arbitration panel of five.
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So, we will nominate one.
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China will nominate one.
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We will nominate.
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And China will nominate one.
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So, and then the president of the tribune of the ITLOS will appoint the president, no?
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Tawag nila dyan, president of the panel.
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But if China will not participate, and I think China will not participate,
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kasi matatalo rin sila.
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Alam nila matatalo sila.
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Then, it will proceed.
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The, what will happen is the president of the ITLOS will,
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nominate the judges on behalf of China.
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So, that's how it is formed.
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Ngayon, but China will continue to be notified, no?
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Along the way, bibigyan sila ng notice, no?
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Kung at any time they can make a comment.
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Sir, given the facts of the case noon,
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sa tingin nyo mas madali bang ipanalo ito?
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Itong inihahandang arbitration?
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Yes, compared to the one that we filed in 2013?
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Madali na lang ito.
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Mas madali ito kasi in the 2016 award,
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sabi ng tribunal,
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China caused severe damage to the marine environment.
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May president na eh na if you destroy the coral reef,
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you will be liable.
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Ang problema lang last 2016,
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we did not ask for damages kasi nagmamadali tayo.
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We wanted to get the ruling out, so we did not ask for damages.
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But this time, we will ask for damages.
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So, it's klaro na.
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Kasi nag-rule na noon eh.
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Na pag sinira mo yung coral reef,
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you extract the giant clams and in the process destroy the coral reef.
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That's illegal destruction of the marine environment.
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Liable yung state.
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it will be the state of China that will be liable kahit nagawa ng mga fishermen nila.
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Kasi pinayagan nila.
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Hindi nila hininto.
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Eh yung ano, yung pwede po mga argument yung,
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eh ba't hindi nyo naman in-enforce?
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Ba't hindi nyo pinigil yung mga Chinese poachers na yan?
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Kasi hindi naman natin magawa, diba?
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Dahil nga yung binubuli tayo ng China.
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Well, that's one.
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Secondly, hindi natin alam.
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Kasi nagkukumpol-kumpol lang yan sila.
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Hindi natin alam nung ginagawa nila yung para sinisira na nila.
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Kasi hindi tayo makalapit.
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Eh pag andyan sila, pag madami sila,
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hindi tayo makalapit.
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kinukuha na nila yung giant clams.
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Sinisira na nila yung coral reef.
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Tsaka, napakalawak yung EEZ natin.
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And we don't have enough coast guard or bifar vessels to monitor, no?
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So, pagdating natin, ubus na.
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Alam naman nila kung dumadating na tayo eh.
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Kasi may satellite rin sila eh.
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Nakikita naman nila ang ating coast guard at saka bifar vessels natin eh.
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So, parang continuation pala ito po ng ating naipanalong arbitration ng 2016.
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Kasi meron ng presidente na pag sinira mo yung coral reef, liable ka eh.
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Kaya madali na lang ito ngayon.
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Hindi na mag-a-argue pa on that point.
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Evidence na lang.
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So, we're gathering.
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Hindi, evidence na sila yun.
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Sila yung coral reef ang sumira nun yung mga Chinese fishermen.
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Yun ang kailangan natin i-prove.
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