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We attained independence in 1945, July 20.
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No, June 12, no? 1946. Okay.
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Ngayon, yung Treaty of Paris, nakasabi doon, Spain ceded to the US all the islands within the treaty lines.
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So, klarong-klaro, ano yung islands sinid ng Spain under the Treaty of Paris?
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Islands within the treaty lines.
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Makita mo naman yung treaty lines eh, naka-plasta yun sa mga mapa eh.
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Eh, pagdating ng US dito, meron palang isla pa ng Pilipinas, archipelago, na hindi kasama sa treaty lines, nasa labas ng treaty lines.
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So, nagkaroon sila ng panibag pangalawang treaty, Treaty of Washington of 1900.
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Two years later, nagkaroon ng Treaty of Washington.
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Spain also ceded to the US all islands belonging to the Philippine archipelago lying outside the lines of the Treaty of Paris.
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Ito na yung Scarborough Shoal, ito na yung Spratlys, at saka yung Mapun Island, kagayan ni Sulu, kaya Sibuto.
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Kasi may mga isla outside the treaty lines eh.
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So, it was clarified, kasama lahat yun if they form part of the Philippine archipelago.
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So, ang question, ano yung Philippine archipelago?
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Saan natin makita yung mapa o dokumento na ito yung Philippine archipelago?
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Kasi Philippine archipelago, most of the islands nasa within the treaty lines, but meron din outside.
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Saan natin makita yung mapa na yun?
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Yun ang mapa na yun is the 1875 Carta General del Arquipelago Filipino.
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Kasi sabi ng Spain, in 1875, ito yung mapa ng Philippine territory under Spanish rule.
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Yung US naman, pagpasok nila dito, pagdating nila sa Pilipinas, they use the same map.
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Kasi wala naman silang time to make a new map eh.
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Sabi nila, ito yung mapa ng Pilipinas under the American regime.
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So, yung dalawang powers agreed na ang Philippine archipelago is shown in this map.
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At saka dun sa isang kaso, international case, Islas Palmas,
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between US and Netherlands, kasi they contested who has sovereignty over Islas Palmas.
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Islas Palmas na sa Mindanao yan eh.
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Ang problema, Spain discovered it, kaya lang, Spain never returned there.
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Nakita nila, sinama nila sa mapa, but they never went back.
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And ang pumupunta doon, yung mga Dutch, at saka pumirma ng Pledge of Allegiance yung mga tao doon,
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that they recognized that sovereignty.
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Arbiter, si Max Huber, it was submitted to arbitration by US and Netherlands.
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Sabi ni Max Huber, yung isla na yan, ang nag-discover, Spain.
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Pero ang nag-exercise ng sovereignty, peaceful and continuous, yung Netherlands, yung Dutch.
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So, binigay sa Dutch.
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So, ngayon, today, that island is part of Indonesia.
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But ang importante doon, yung America, US, submitted the 1875 map.
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Itong mapa na ito, ito yung mapa ng Philippine territory under Spanish regime and under American regime.
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Naka, ano yan, recorded yan, no?
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So, yun ang, ano,
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ang Philippine territory, hindi lang limitado doon sa, within the treaty lines of the Treaty of Paris, no?
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Kasama doon yung ibang isla.
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Saan natin mahanap yung ibang isla?
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Sa Carta General, 1875 map of Philippine territory.
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Sir, kung malinaw pala na, ito, specifically, yung Scarborough Shoal ay pasok sa, kumbaga, part ng Philippine territory, base rin sa mga binanggit nyo.
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Di ba dapat ina-anon natin yan?
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We took possession of it?
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Kasi ang sabi ng ano, traditional fishing ground.
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I mean, paano po ba ibang-abanggayon?
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Territorial, base sa ating claim, pero traditional fishing ground, base sa concourse tribunal.
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That is the, that is an exception.
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So, sa sovereignty.
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Kasi, before nations came, madami namang mga isla na naging common fishing ground.
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Nang iba-ibang tao from different countries.
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And nagkaroon, they became a state, the law recognized, internationally recognized, the rights of other people to go there to continue fishing.
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Kaya, tinatawag yan traditional fishing ground.
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Yung traditional fishing ground, long before the,
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the state became sovereign, independent.
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So, yun, that's a recognition na, that was common fishing ground of the people around that area from different nationalities and countries.
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So, that will continue.
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Yun lang, very unique exception yan eh.
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So, assuming, kunwari, kunwari lang, although napakatagal nito kung sa kasakali mamatuloy pa.
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Kunwari, nasa ito ng territorial dispute, talaga sa Pilipinas yung Scarborough.
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So, does it mean na magtutuloy po siya also as a traditional fishing ground?
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Kasi, yun ang rule doon.
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May mga decisions na ganyan.
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Sinabi ng court, international court na,
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this country A has sovereignty over this island,
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but the other countries has fishing rights in the territorial sea of that island.
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So, even if we own it as a territory,
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we cannot preclude other,
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other countries such as China and Vietnam from fishing there.
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Because, rinirecognize yung traditional fishing ng, ng mga ibang-ibang tao.
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Eh, pero itong ano po, ah, in reality, sa international law,
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the fact na parang, total, si Duterte mismo nagsabi, no?
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China is in possession of, I mean, the West Philippine Sea, diba sinabi niya yan?
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But the Scarborough Shoal, ah, for all intents and purposes,
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pinipigilan ng China ang Pilipinas and Vietnam to, to fish, ah, properly dyan sa Scarborough Shoal.
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Yan bang, ano na yan?
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Can that be considered, ah, as possession of Scarborough Shoal?
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And would that benefit China in a territorial dispute or litigation?
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Well, ang sabi ni, for my President Duterte,
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China is already in possession of the West Philippine Sea,
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which is factually wrong.
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Hindi naman sila in possession.
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Naka pala, napakalawak yung West Philippine Sea.
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That's land, if you,
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compare that area to the territory of the Philippines,
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the, in terms of, ah, area.
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So, pwede mo sabihin that, ah,
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China is in possession of, ah, Scarborough Shoal.
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China is in possession of some of the islands in the Spratlys.
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Pero pag sinabi mo,
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is already in possession of the West Philippine Sea,
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Daming dumadaan dyan.
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Daming tayo, dumadaan din tayo.
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parang pinamigay niya, eh, wala namang base.
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Actually, China is not in possession of the West Philippine Sea.
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It is in possession of certain islands in the West Philippine Sea.
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Hindi yung buong West Philippine Sea.
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Eh, pero itong, ano, itong Scarborough Shoal po,
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kung China is in possession of this,
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how would that affect our territorial claim?
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Hindi lang maritime claim, territorial po.
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Doon, sa lugar na ito.
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Sa territorial claim naman, ah, there is a,
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What they call the critical date, no?
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The critical date is when one country,
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one state claims the island,
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and another state claims the same island.
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When that happens,
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when there is a congruence of claim,
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that date is called the critical date.
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The sovereignty will be decided
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based on facts and law
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before that critical date.
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yung takeover ng China
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after the critical date
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will not improve the title of China.
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Kasi, the policy of the law,
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pag may critical date na,
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you should not aggravate the dispute
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by grabbing the territory.
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Kasi lalo magkakagulo.
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The policy of international law is
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to preserve peace and stability
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in all places of the world, no?
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spiritual dispute,
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once there is clearly,
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there is clearly a dispute,
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kasi one state claims the island,
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the other state claims the island,
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anything you do to improve your title
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will not be considered.
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So, matagal na itong critical date,
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kasi matagal na inangkin ng China yan.
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Ang reckoning ko,
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1947 is the critical date
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because it was in 1947
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that China released the nine-dust line map.
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And claimed all the islands
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within the nine-dust line.
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1947 is the critical date.
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Justice, kung ayon sa inyo,
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malakas din ang ating territorial claim,
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hindi ba parang panahon ba
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na panahon na nahamunin
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ng gobyerno natin ngayon
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Punta na tayo sa ICJ,
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International Court of Justice.
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I advocated for that.
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And then si Defense Secretary
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kung gusto ng China,
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let's submit it to arbitration,
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the territorial dispute.
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So, that should be our position.
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Dapat yung DFA natin,
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hamunin sila, lahat sila,
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Vietnam, Malaysia,
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to submit the territorial dispute
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Kasi that is a peaceful settlement.
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Sabi ng UN Charter,
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all disputes between states
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must be settled peacefully
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and finally by arbitration.
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E dito na tayo sa arbitration.
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Matagal na yung negotiation,
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Walang nangyari eh.
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So, arbitration na tayo.
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So, that is in fact
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in conformity with the UN Charter
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na you go to arbitration.
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Tama yung ginawa ni
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Defense Secretary Gibo Chidoro
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If you think really na sa inyo yan,
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Submit it to arbitration.
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Sa ngayon ako doon.
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So, pwede nga no?
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Lahat ng claimant countries
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dito sa South China Sea
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submit everything to arbitration?
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That is the ideal.
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Para matapos lahat.
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And I think we should start it.
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Kasi napakatiba yung ating evidentiya eh.
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We have a very strong claim.
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I have no doubt na
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we have the strongest claim.
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Kaya ayaw din nila.
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Kasi siyempre alam nila matatalo sila.
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Dito sa isang territorial dispute settlement po
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kung sa kasakali.
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Kailangan mag-agree lahat po
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ng claimant countries
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ng territorial dispute.
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Bapanan naman yung positioning
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Kiniklaim nila ito abasin sa kanila.
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Pero they're not.
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They're considered as
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a renegade province by China.
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So how do they figure in that equation?
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they will be considered as part of China.
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Kasi that China is the one that's recognized
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The International Tribunal
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will be bound by that.
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That the representative of China
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is the Chinese Communist Party.
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It's the government in power.
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at the arbitration natin,
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sa July 12 award,
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the tribunal discussed ito aba
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kahit nawala yung Taiwan.
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They discussed it
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even if Taiwan was not a party,
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although they allowed Taiwan
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to intervene later.
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it can be resolved
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even without Taiwan
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because the legal representative
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is the People's Republic of China.
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it can be resolved even without China.
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Ang tribunal po dyan
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is the International Court of Justice
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Gano'n po ba kadugo yung proseso dyan?
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Figuratively po sa mga trulsa,
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Figuratively lang yan.
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Gano'n ba katinde yung proseso po?
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Well, parang ano din,
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sa Arbitral Tribunal sa Hague,
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Ganyan din about that time frame yan.
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