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Sep 02 2019, 6:08pm CST ~ 8 mos. ago. 
Enclitics word order...
 
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Here is the enclitics word order table for reference, for someone who asked earlier...
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Author Photo leosmith
Sep 02 2019, 6:34pm CST ~ 8 mos. ago. 
 
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Author Photo BoraMac
Sep 02 2019, 10:30pm CST ~ 8 mos. ago. 
And the two tables have certain conflicts like between ba at order 2 and 6.
 
The second table offers no direction for conflicts in order 2. But seems a strong preference for shorter words before longer...with a few general rules available?
 
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Author Photo leosmith
Sep 02 2019, 11:28pm CST ~ 8 mos. ago. 
@BoraMac I've looked into this quite a bit; I wouldn't worry much about the discrepancies. But if you really want to dig deep, check out S&O pg 411 and on (it's extremely complicated; that's why I suggest just gleaning conflicts).
 
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Author Photo BoraMac
Sep 02 2019, 11:39pm CST ~ 8 mos. ago. 
Yes...funny how quickly a fun language gets so complicated.
 
The general preference seems to be slide the shorter words forward. Which allows for a quicker bounce in pronunciation...and keeps us away from any "pangit rule" violations.
 
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Author Photo leosmith
Sep 02 2019, 11:56pm CST ~ 8 mos. ago. 
Lol yeah, and don't even get me started on pseudo-verbs. The order I remember enclitics is:
short personal pronouns
short enclitic particles
long enclitic particles
kita
the remaining ng personal pronouns
the remaining ang personal pronouns
This is generally true
 
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Author Photo BoraMac
Sep 02 2019, 11:59pm CST ~ 8 mos. ago. 
Ahhh...thanks for sharing. I like2 generally true...anything I can take to the street.
 
Aren't the pseudo verbs supposed to be simpler...can't we just keep something simple! :D
 
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