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Author Photo by: leosmith Rating: 0
Oct 27 2019, 2:03pm CST ~ 2 weeks, 2 days ago. 
Hi Admin - are you sure about the pronunciation of kaysa? I admit I've only seen it the way you have it now in books, and your audio matches your pronunciation. But it seems like natives pronounce both the stress and glottal stop on the last "a".
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Author Photo TLDCAdmin Rating: 0
Oct 27 2019, 2:58pm CST ~ 2 weeks, 2 days ago. 
@leosmith
Looks like there is some disagreement among reliable source materials.
 
One physical dictionary of mine shows “kaysá”.
 
The UP dictionary shows “kaysá” with the variation “kesa”.
 
Asperilla’s (a respected and native Tagalog language speaker) language books shows “kaysa”.
 
None of them show a glottal stop.
 
Our Listening Practice section has someone (a motorcycle accessories salesman) use the word in a natural setting, and it sounds to me like the stress is on the first syllable. In the same video the Yotuber uses the word and it also sounds to me more like “kaysa” / “kesa”:
 
www.tagaloglessons.c om/listening-practic e/youtube-watch.php? youtube_video_i
(around video time 7:28 and 13:04)
 
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Author Photo leosmith Rating: 0
Oct 27 2019, 7:00pm CST ~ 2 weeks, 2 days ago. 
Alright, thanks for the verification.
 
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Author Photo leosmith Rating: 0
Oct 28 2019, 7:04pm CST ~ 2 weeks, 1 day ago. 
How about Makatulog? I've been stressing the U like you have, but I there is a native speaker telling me the O should be stressed.
 
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Author Photo TLDCAdmin Rating: 0
Oct 28 2019, 7:15pm CST ~ 2 weeks, 1 day ago. 
@leosmith
Aspillera says makatulog in her Basic Tagalog book in the lesson about the maka- prefix.
 
Ramos also says makatulog in her “Handbook of Tagalog Verbs” book.
 
But, with so many regional variations, if a native speaker tells you one way that’s different than the books, you should probably file it away in your brain as a valid variation.
 
It sounds like you may be at a point where it would be worth investing in some additional reference materials for you to have on hand for questions like this, too.
 
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Author Photo leosmith Rating: 0
Oct 28 2019, 10:42pm CST ~ 2 weeks, 1 day ago. 
You're right, thank you.
 
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