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May 06 2020, 9:35pm CST ~ 3 weeks, 2 days ago. 
Hi, I'm fairly new to learning Tagalog so this might be a question without answer. For verbs in which the doer is on focus and the affixes -um and -mag are added, how will I know which affix to use for which verb?Kumain for instance adds -um, while magluto adds -mag. Is there a rule to know which one to use or will I have to learn the verb as kumain and not just the root kain? Thank you.
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Author Photo jkos Badge: AdminBadge: SupporterBadge: VIP Supporter
May 07 2020, 8:05am CST ~ 3 weeks, 2 days ago. 
Hi @AlexC !
Generally, this is just something you memorize. There are some vague guidelines...mag- verbs tend to be more outward focused and focused on doing some external action, -um- verbs are often internally focused actions or actions directed toward one’s self...but, it’s not consistent and often not intuitive, so it really just comes down to memorizing.
 
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Author Photo AlexC
May 07 2020, 8:21am CST ~ 3 weeks, 2 days ago. 
@jkos Thank you for your answer. I kind of realized that is the case. The affixes added to verbs are the hardest part for me, so I guess I'll just have to memorize them as they are
 
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May 07 2020, 8:23am CST ~ 3 weeks, 2 days ago. 
The affixes added to verbs are the hardest part for me
 
@AlexC You are not alone there!
 
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Author Photo lbwest0118
May 07 2020, 4:08pm CST ~ 3 weeks, 1 day ago. 
@AlexC same boat, I feel like 😳When I see all the nuances that make up this great language!!
 
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Author Photo AMBoy Badge: SupporterBadge: Serious SupporterBadge: VIP Supporter
May 07 2020, 4:27pm CST ~ 3 weeks, 1 day ago. 
Don't forget that some words have both mag- and -um- affixes.
 
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Author Photo AlexC
May 07 2020, 8:35pm CST ~ 3 weeks, 1 day ago. 
@AMBoy Haha, yes indeed, I've realized that. Knowing when to use one prefix and when the other it's another tricky part but I'm trying to pick the differences in day to day usage from my wife and other locals. Hai nako!
 
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Author Photo Redlotus45 Badge: Native Tagalog Speaker
May 07 2020, 8:50pm CST ~ 3 weeks, 1 day ago. 
@AlexC Hi. This can help you a bit. Works on some words. Think of taking and giving. To take use um, to give use mag. The word is "sakay" in English it is ride. Take a ride, sumakay. Give a ride, magsakay.
 
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Author Photo AlexC
May 07 2020, 9:10pm CST ~ 3 weeks, 1 day ago. 
@Redlotus45 That's a great tip, I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.
 
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Author Photo Redlotus45 Badge: Native Tagalog Speaker
May 07 2020, 9:36pm CST ~ 3 weeks, 1 day ago. 
@AlexC no worries.
 
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Author Photo jkos Badge: AdminBadge: SupporterBadge: VIP Supporter
May 07 2020, 10:09pm CST ~ 3 weeks, 1 day ago. 
@Redlotus45 Ah, that is a good tip! Nice way of looking at it for many verbs.
 
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Author Photo Redlotus45 Badge: Native Tagalog Speaker
May 07 2020, 10:23pm CST ~ 3 weeks, 1 day ago. 
@jkos Thanks. And I am still looking for some tips to help.
 
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Author Photo Ahkasi
May 08 2020, 7:50am CST ~ 3 weeks, 1 day ago. 
I havent really started on ""fixs" yet, they scare me.
 
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