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Author Photo by: JamesInTokyo Rating: 0
Jul 15 2019, 5:03pm CST ~ 4 mos., 24 days ago. 
nasunugan kasi kami
 
This phrase came up in some training data, but I've not been able to parse the meaning. When I look up 'nasunugan' in the dictionary, I get 'burn victim', which is completely different from the meaning we're expecting.
 
What would be a reasonable word-by-word deconstruction of this phrase?
 
Thanks much for your help!
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Author Photo JamesInTokyo Rating: 0
Jul 15 2019, 5:09pm CST ~ 4 mos., 24 days ago. 
PS Also, we're hearing 2 pronunciations for 'nasunugan':
 
1. As-is according to spelling
2. Without the 'na' at the beginning: 'sunugan'
 
Is this just an elided, or alternate pronunciation, or would you actually spell the word differently?
 
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Author Photo TLDCAdmin Rating: 0
Jul 15 2019, 5:18pm CST ~ 4 mos., 24 days ago. 
@JamesInTokyo
I have a guess, but will let a native speaker reply.
It might be quite helpful if you post the words in context, with an example sentence you’re seeing or hearing.
 
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Author Photo JamesInTokyo Rating: 0
Jul 15 2019, 5:21pm CST ~ 4 mos., 24 days ago. 
@TLDCAdmin It's an answer to a question like "Am I speaking with Mr. XXX?" on the phone and is a negative response! At least I'm pretty sure that's the context :D
 
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Author Photo TLDCAdmin Rating: 0
Jul 15 2019, 5:29pm CST ~ 4 mos., 24 days ago. 
@JamesInTokyo Oh, that’s different than what I was thinking...maybe someone else knows?
 
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Author Photo Tagamanila Rating: 0
Jul 16 2019, 5:34am CST ~ 4 mos., 23 days ago. 
@JamesInTokyo
 
The root word is “sunog” (noun) that means “fire/conflagration” or “sunóg” (adjective) that means “burned/burnt”. “Sunog!” is what we’d shout when there’s fire.
 
“Masunugan” (to have one’s property damaged by fire; subject-focus): nasunugan, nasusunugan, masusunugan
 
“Nasunugan kasi kami”, depending on context, can mean “Because we had a fire here/Because our house got burned/Because we are fire victims”.
 
The word must have the prefix “ma/na” with it since “sunugan” will mean something else.
 
I am not sure how such would be an answer to a question like, "Am I speaking with Mr. XXX?". Maybe the person is giving an explanation as to why Mr. XXX is not there?
 
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Author Photo JamesInTokyo Rating: 0
Jul 16 2019, 5:51am CST ~ 4 mos., 23 days ago. 
@Tagamanila Wow, thank you so much!
You know, it might make some amount of sense...
These are people who have taken out a loan and are saying they can't pay it back. Perhaps that's the explanation!!!
 
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Author Photo TLDCAdmin Rating: 0
Jul 16 2019, 3:49pm CST ~ 4 mos., 23 days ago. 
@JamesInTokyo Just curious — how did you come across this training data?
 
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Author Photo JamesInTokyo Rating: 0
Jul 16 2019, 5:20pm CST ~ 4 mos., 23 days ago. 
@TLDCAdmin It's proprietary data my company collected
 
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Author Photo TLDCAdmin Rating: 0
Jul 17 2019, 10:29am CST ~ 4 mos., 22 days ago. 
@JamesInTokyo
It's proprietary data my company collected
 
Huh...interesting...is it an educational company, or like a data broker? I understand if you can't discuss!
 
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Author Photo JamesInTokyo Rating: 0
Jul 17 2019, 3:33pm CST ~ 4 mos., 22 days ago. 
@TLDCAdmin I can't actually say anything more than that! But this information was super helpful
 
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Author Photo TLDCAdmin Rating: 0
Jul 17 2019, 3:40pm CST ~ 4 mos., 22 days ago. 
@JamesInTokyo OK, I understand.
 
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