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Author Photo by: Lancent Rating: 0
Sep 04 2019, 12:00am CST ~ 2 weeks, 4 days ago. 
I have a question about some of the 'accent' marks used in the dictionary. The main accent mark is straight-forward (I think). It's the underlined vowel. However, there are a couple of other markings: à and â. I assume one of them represents a glottal stop, but I don't know which, and I don't know what the other one represents. Could someone educate me. Thanks
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Author Photo Tagamanila Rating: 0
Sep 04 2019, 12:12am CST ~ 2 weeks, 4 days ago. 
@Lancent
 
The "a`" is a milder glottal stop compared to "â". They are only used over vowels at the end of word and usually, a word that ends with the milder "a`" has another stressed syllable before it. Compare the pronunciations for "malayà" and "masamâ" in the dictionary.
 
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Author Photo TLDCAdmin Rating: 0
Sep 04 2019, 6:47am CST ~ 2 weeks, 4 days ago. 
@Lancent
@Tagamanila Is correct...
 
â is a glottal stop plus stressed syllable, so it sounds stronger.
There’s more description at this link, plus many audio clips to listen for the difference:
www.tagaloglessons.c om/lessons/lesson.ph p?lesson_id=26&csid= 33
 
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Author Photo Lancent Rating: 0
Sep 04 2019, 1:00pm CST ~ 2 weeks, 4 days ago. 
Thanks. That page is exactly what I was looking for.
 
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Author Photo leosmith Rating: 0
Sep 04 2019, 1:23pm CST ~ 2 weeks, 4 days ago. 
There’s more description at this link

@TLDCAdmin
There appear to be some mistakes on that page. Is it possible that you brought in the underline after you wrote that?
 
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Author Photo TLDCAdmin Rating: 0
Sep 04 2019, 1:29pm CST ~ 2 weeks, 4 days ago. 
@leosmith
What do you see that you believe is a mistake? I reviewed again briefly and don’t see anything glaring...
 
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Author Photo leosmith Rating: 0
Sep 04 2019, 7:09pm CST ~ 2 weeks, 4 days ago. 
1) 'We use accent marks written over vowels' - you also underline stressed vowels, but didn't mention it
2) 'if we talk about the "Default Stress", we're talking about stressing the 2nd-to-the-last syllable; and in that case, the accent mark is usually omitted / not written' - I don't doubt that this is true, but in the dictionary you underline stressed vowels even if they are 2nd-to-the-last syllable
3) 'This accent mark is known as a pahilís and is a slanted accent mark that leans up and to the right. It is written above vowels, and indicates that the syllable under the mark should be stressed.' I've seen many underlines in dictionary words without the pahilís
 
The way I interpret your system is the word is stressed on the underlined vowel, and any of the 3 accent marks above a vowel indicates a glottal stop
 
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Author Photo TLDCAdmin Rating: 0
Sep 04 2019, 8:52pm CST ~ 2 weeks, 4 days ago. 
@leosmith
1.) I will add something to make the underlining more clear.
 
2.) The info about underlines will be added to clarify. Technically, the page was about accent marks (and underlines are something different), but I can see how not mentioning the underlines might be confusing.
 
3.) You quoted the section about the default accent position and how it’s omitted...which is the explanation for why many dictionary entries don’t have accents...
 
The way I interpret your system is the word is stressed on the underlined vowel, and any of the 3 accent marks above a vowel indicates a glottal stop
 
That’s incorrect....two of them have glottal stops and one does not...this is specified in the descriptions of the stress marks...
 
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Author Photo leosmith Rating: 0
Sep 04 2019, 10:57pm CST ~ 2 weeks, 3 days ago. 
ok, thanks
 
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