00:51.4
dun sa ating R&R show with Ronald Llamas.
00:54.8
Ito na, mukhang malaking chance na at least tatlong kandidato
00:58.3
galing sa totoong oposisyon
01:01.1
na pwede pumasok sa Magic 12
01:04.5
should, of course, any of them, if not all of them,
01:08.2
run for office next year.
01:10.2
Of course, before the end of this year,
01:12.0
and dito na tayo 2024,
01:13.7
dapat na mag-register ang mga kandidato for the race next year.
01:17.2
So, more or less, in a few months from now,
01:19.6
magsisimula yung totoong labanan.
01:21.6
At exactly, katulad ang sinabi natin,
01:23.6
the situation is not as hopeless as some people think.
01:27.3
it's not gonna be easy.
01:28.8
Now, before pupunta tayo dun sa Pulse Asia survey,
01:31.4
alam kong naramdaman, pinaka-hopeful na survey ito ako
01:33.8
as far as chances for opposition is concerned
01:38.7
And again, ulitin natin, kasi kahapon nga,
01:40.6
medyo nakaranda ang put-out problema.
01:42.1
It takes scrambling.
01:43.4
Sige lang, mag-scramble sila
01:44.6
para lang makapasok sila dito sa Magic 12
01:47.8
in the Senate or any national position.
01:50.8
meron tayong interview dun sa ating Mother Station, of course.
01:54.9
Of course, I was preparing for it,
01:57.3
very, you know, set importance of questions.
01:59.4
Of course, we're talking about the ICC,
02:00.9
we're talking about yung mga calculus ng UNITY,
02:03.2
we're talking about the political landscape,
02:04.7
pero mukhang ang trending kanina, no?
02:07.8
Itong awayan ng mga minamahal niyong vloggers, no?
02:12.4
Ito, parang ayoko na lang i-play ito.
02:15.2
Kaya na lang mag-play yan.
02:18.5
Saan ba ilalagyan natin dito sa camera?
02:22.2
Sa landas namin, isas, mga May, May 2016.
02:26.1
Tapos, dire-direction.
02:27.3
Tapos, naisip ko, tatandaan ko nun,
02:32.4
nine years later,
02:33.5
pwede pa siya ng Pilipinas,
02:35.1
kasi daw wala na to siya residence visa doon.
02:41.2
eh, tatandaan ko pa nga,
02:44.5
nung, nung, nung,
02:49.0
Great love, but, ano ba?
02:58.5
Over the years, edi, tipi-tipi, ganyan.
03:02.2
Tapos, mga bandang 20, nung pandemic na,
03:05.3
edi, syempre, peteks lahat.
03:07.2
Sabi ko, hindi makapag-aral nga ako.
03:09.7
Nag-uusapan, pinag-uusapan namin ni Sas yun, eh.
03:13.2
si, actually, ang unang nag-float sa akin
03:15.3
sa Europe, si Sas.
03:18.0
Ang sabi niya, alam mo ba, RJ,
03:19.9
ang dalidaling, ano,
03:21.5
ang dalidaling kumuha ng scholarship dito,
03:24.3
sa Europe, ganyan.
03:25.3
Pag-aral ka dito, kahit matandaan na,
03:27.3
naman dito, pinag, ano,
03:29.0
okay lang mag-aral, ganyan.
03:34.4
Ano, eh, makulat ako.
03:36.2
Kasi nga, guys, ganito,
03:37.8
hindi ko galing nakikipag-
03:40.1
nag-uusap ng pera.
03:45.8
Mas maganda pa yung, ano,
03:47.8
tapos tahimik lang.
03:49.2
Eh, gano'n lang naman ako, eh.
03:50.2
Okay, anyway, guys,
03:51.5
bukang eto, eto, eto,
03:52.4
balikan natin ito.
03:54.0
Sorry, na-i-size ko lang dito.
03:55.4
Wala tayong, ano, eh.
03:56.4
Eh, wala tayong mga,
03:58.1
dalang mga OBS and all.
04:03.1
bukang medyo uminit-unit
04:04.3
etong away ng mga
04:05.9
ex-Same Camp DDS people.
04:10.1
as far as I'm concerned,
04:12.3
last year pa lang nakita natin yan, eh.
04:14.0
Especially nung time na si BBM
04:17.1
expansion of the Enhanced Defense
04:18.8
Cooperation Agreement.
04:20.0
Doon talaga nakakaalaman na
04:26.4
Kasi nag-split na, eh.
04:28.1
And some of the big names,
04:29.6
major bloggers sila,
04:31.9
ay talagang, eto na,
04:34.2
talagang nag-all opposition mode
04:37.3
nag-all pro-China mode,
04:39.4
nag-all pro-Duterte mode.
04:41.0
But some of them,
04:42.4
including this person,
04:44.4
na dating orgmate natin,
04:45.9
actually, as far as I know,
04:48.3
doong position na administration
04:49.7
pagdating sa ETCA.
04:50.7
And I think there was a time
04:51.6
na nag-back and forth pa
04:52.5
yung dalawa na yan na
04:53.5
sinong may masalam
04:54.9
dito sa foreign policy mo.
04:56.2
Kung yung isa sabi niya,
04:57.3
may access daw siya
04:59.1
Yung isa wala daw.
05:00.3
mga ganyan na flex-flex na yan.
05:04.2
I don't want to get into,
05:05.9
you know, whatever of these people.
05:07.4
But ang sinasabi ko lang,
05:10.1
na matagal namin alam
05:11.4
na magkakaroon talaga
05:12.4
ng gulo dito sa UNITEAM
05:14.3
at hindi tatagal UNITEAM
05:15.5
is because of itong hidwa
05:17.7
sa pagitan ng mga big blog,
05:19.7
major bloggers nila.
05:22.9
Blogger naman talaga.
05:24.2
nothing more I can say.
05:26.7
hindi naman sila expert,
05:27.7
hindi naman sila,
05:31.3
I'm not surprised
05:33.3
nag-intensify na ito.
05:39.7
I know na parating may
05:43.8
na ang gusto ng tao
05:46.3
ay magpa-popcorn na lang
05:49.3
at the expense of these people
05:51.0
having this meltdown
05:52.6
Pero para sa akin,
05:58.0
this is a golden opportunity
05:59.5
for the opposition
06:00.6
to get this act together.
06:03.9
na opposition ngayon,
06:07.4
na hindi natutuwa
06:09.1
ng ating bansa ngayon
06:11.8
dahil sa kanilang palagay,
06:15.7
hindi lang temperament,
06:17.7
yung kanyang polisiya
06:18.7
dun sa mga liberals
06:21.4
yung mga pinakalaban
06:24.7
for me, of course,
06:26.2
why people are having fun,
06:27.4
people are enjoying
06:28.3
picking up the popcorn,
06:29.7
people are enjoying
06:30.1
these people spilling
06:30.8
the beans on each other.
06:33.0
I don't know how much
06:33.9
true yung mga beans
06:41.6
how should I put it?
06:45.5
I'm glad that actually,
06:50.7
si Christian Esguerra
06:51.7
or yung kaibigan natin
06:54.9
ay nagiging active na
06:58.7
hindi na ito yung
06:59.4
traditional situation
07:01.9
mainstream journalist media
07:05.3
pagdating sa social media,
07:06.6
sila yung superpowers.
07:09.3
magkakaalaman na.
07:11.2
malakas na rin yung
07:12.0
mga progressives,
07:13.4
malakas na rin yung mga
07:14.2
legit journalists,
07:16.9
na meron na rin silang
07:17.9
sariling mga YouTube channels,
07:19.4
meron na silang sariling
07:20.2
mga social media platforms,
07:27.7
pang tawag din kaya.
07:32.4
number one lang naman tayo
07:33.4
sa political podcast.
07:34.7
Yan ang gano'n lang naman
07:35.4
yung levels natin.
07:38.1
But you get what I'm saying,
07:43.2
I see some good signs here.
07:47.8
green shoots here.
07:55.3
critical thinking,
07:59.8
based on evidence,
08:03.2
on reasonableness,
08:06.5
based on human rights,
08:08.1
Lumalakas na online ngayon.
08:09.4
At kitang-kita ko yan
08:14.1
hindi pwede hanggang dyan lang.
08:15.7
So, hindi pwede hanggang
08:18.2
Hindi lang pwede hanggang
08:19.4
lumalaban lang sa social media.
08:22.9
good naman na medyo patas
08:24.1
na yung laban ngayon.
08:24.9
Para yung mga kababayan,
08:26.2
meron silang options
08:27.9
na it's not about them
08:30.5
cable news channel
08:32.5
or going to YouTube
08:35.2
and watching some trashy people
08:36.7
talking about how
08:37.7
Tata is the best president
08:38.8
in the solar system.
08:39.8
Hindi na siya ganun.
08:42.7
Punta ka YouTube,
08:43.4
manot ka ng yung mga katulad natin,
08:48.9
And at the same time,
08:50.2
magkakaroon ka rin
08:51.0
ng critical thinking
08:51.9
pagdating dun naman
08:53.4
ng ibang presidente,
08:54.9
including mga liberals,
08:55.8
reforms, progressive, etc.
08:57.7
At pwede rin natin
08:59.1
ano yung mga kailangan mangyari
09:00.3
para mag-move forward
09:02.7
yung ating democracy
09:03.5
in the right direction.
09:05.1
Hindi lang real change,
09:06.1
but real good change.
09:07.4
May real change naman
09:08.8
except for the worst, diba?
09:09.9
So, we want real good change.
09:12.1
Now, speaking of real good change,
09:14.2
kailangan din na magkakaroon
09:17.4
dun sa actual state institutions,
09:21.1
especially sa national level.
09:22.8
Especially sa national level.
09:26.4
Mahalaga kasi yung mga Senado.
09:27.7
So, katulad ng pinag-usapan natin
09:29.5
kahapon, mga kameta,
09:30.9
of course, pasensya na,
09:31.8
medyo connection and all
09:33.2
has not been so good.
09:34.4
So, I'm just trying to alternate
09:35.5
between different sides
09:36.5
to get the best connection possible.
09:38.8
Na, ito yung sinabi ko eh.
09:39.9
Na, yes, I understand
09:42.1
kung may mga ibang nagsasabi
09:44.4
2025 is too early
09:47.3
na sa daming talo
09:50.9
progressive liberal opposition,
09:52.6
si Lenny lang naman talagang
09:58.9
si Riza Intiveros lang
10:01.1
from real opposition
10:02.0
dun sa national level election.
10:03.2
So, after three bruising defeats,
10:06.0
some are thinking
10:06.5
maybe it's time for
10:07.3
really deep soul-searching
10:08.4
and perhaps realistically
10:09.8
we have to look at 2028.
10:11.4
Pero ang argument ko dito is
10:13.9
baka hindi na darating
10:15.4
yung 2028 elections
10:16.8
in the sense that
10:17.6
we're expecting it
10:18.4
because 2025 pa lang
10:19.8
pwede ma-determine
10:23.1
ng ating political system
10:24.8
should the pro-Marcos camp
10:26.7
with constitutional change
10:28.5
That's a very, very big possibility
10:30.1
na kung sobrang big time
10:33.8
and may genuine concern sila
10:39.6
pagdating sa presidency,
10:41.3
then baka ipipreempt na nila yan
10:42.8
and they'll push for
10:43.4
constitutional change
10:45.4
right after elections
10:46.6
and they may have
10:47.5
enough number to do that.
10:49.0
So, that's exactly where
10:50.1
kailangan mo na may opposition.
10:51.9
people from the opposition
10:54.7
for the opposition.
10:54.8
So, that's exactly where you need to be.
10:54.8
You need to be there
10:56.9
and to have a seat
11:00.6
To have a seat at the table
11:01.6
is very, very important
11:02.8
for the opposition
11:03.5
because otherwise
11:04.7
they could be completely
11:06.6
Not only from the drama
11:09.9
and the conflagration
11:14.0
magkakaroon ng boxing
11:15.2
out of the political
11:17.2
for the foreseeable future
11:18.3
if magkakaroon ng
11:19.1
constitutional change.
11:21.5
and in the process of
11:30.4
isang new constitutional
11:32.2
there's really limited space
11:33.6
for real progressive
11:34.9
liberal opposition.
11:38.9
in fairness naman
11:39.5
may mga green shoots.
11:41.6
pinag-usapan natin
11:45.2
pinag-usapan din natin
11:46.2
yung Publicos Asia survey.
11:48.8
You also had snippets
11:49.9
of yung interview natin
11:50.7
sa CNN Philippines
11:53.6
yung mga survey na yan,
11:57.3
a little bit concerned
12:00.8
parang may chance doon
12:03.3
even the striking distance
12:04.7
doon sa mga surveys
12:06.8
si Tatay Digong daw
12:08.7
doon sa isang survey
12:09.8
na very credible,
12:16.7
at gusto ko i-share
12:18.1
kasi pinag-usapan namin
12:20.7
first it was in fairness
12:24.2
it gives you some room
12:27.3
it's also circulating
12:29.0
kasi commissioned
12:32.4
so hindi siya for public.
12:35.2
So, eto mga kameta,
12:36.7
Kung titignan nyo dito,
12:41.8
Kung titignan nyo dito,
12:47.2
number one si Erwin Tulfo,
12:48.9
yun yung consistent
12:51.3
sa lahat ng surveys.
12:52.5
Isa pa naman Tulfo
12:54.2
And then you have,
12:55.6
usual suspects like,
13:01.1
hindi eto Tito Boy Soto,
13:02.6
Vicente Tito Soto.
13:08.3
the younger version of that
13:09.3
like Isko Moreno,
13:13.1
And then you have
13:24.2
you have, of course,
13:24.9
other kind of celebrities
13:27.3
But this is where
13:28.0
things get interesting.
13:30.4
mukhang mataas ng chance niya
13:31.9
na baka makapasok na siya
13:32.9
sa etong election cycle na to
13:34.5
because he did pretty decent
13:35.6
in the former Senate races.
13:38.0
He didn't do as well
13:39.5
sa vice presidential race.
13:40.8
Mahabang usapan niya.
13:41.6
We can get into that.
13:43.7
But it looks like
13:44.5
Willie Ong may finally
13:46.0
to get into the Senate
13:46.8
should he run for 2025.
13:48.7
medyo may pakarizong
13:51.3
third time lucky siya,
13:54.5
he ran for vice presidency.
13:55.7
But this is where
13:56.3
things get interesting.
13:57.9
Pasok dun sa Sergal,
14:00.4
Potential Magic 12,
14:04.1
si Kiko Pangilinan,
14:06.6
the two rank even higher
14:07.7
than Lenny Rubredo.
14:10.0
are within the range
14:16.0
pasok silang tatlo
14:16.9
or may good chance sila
14:18.8
na makapasok sa top 12
14:20.1
if ever they run for office.
14:22.8
medyo hirap si Francis
14:27.0
gnawing at the edges.
14:36.4
and then the rest.
14:38.7
if you look at it,
14:41.4
dun sa previous vlog.
14:43.7
at least there's three
14:47.2
liberal progressive opposition
14:49.7
who have a very good chance
14:50.8
of making it to Magic 12.
14:56.7
we said na pagdating kay Lenny,
14:58.1
mukhang iba yung planan niya.
15:00.1
I said so many things.
15:03.1
I don't want to say
15:05.1
Sa tingin ko naman,
15:05.7
tama naman yung lahat
15:06.4
ang sinasabi natin last year
15:07.6
about what opposition should do,
15:11.0
at the end of the day,
15:12.8
I think she did a lot
15:15.2
Ang hirap nung mga
15:16.0
ang hirap nung mga
15:18.3
when she ran for the presidency.
15:20.5
sino ba naman tayo
15:21.4
to pipilitin siya?
15:25.0
into the ring again.
15:28.0
since there are not too many
15:29.7
na galing sa real opposition
15:31.4
na may malaking chance
15:32.4
na makakapasok sa Magic 12,
15:34.7
I think it's still worth
15:35.7
for the Lenny camp
15:38.2
of considering the Senate race.
15:39.9
she's not doing as well
15:40.8
as perhaps some people
15:41.4
would have expected.
15:42.7
I would have thought
15:43.6
that maybe top 3,
15:45.7
But I don't know.
15:47.4
really wants to run for Senate
15:48.9
and then she really makes
15:50.6
a rallying cry for it,
15:53.5
a very good chance
15:54.2
of hindi lang top 12,
15:56.9
there's a very good chance
15:57.8
she can make it to top 5.
15:60.0
who won 15 million,
16:01.3
more than 15 million votes.
16:03.2
Ibang usapan niya
16:03.9
SD cards and Google Trends.
16:05.5
But officially speaking,
16:06.5
she won more than
16:08.4
for the presidency.
16:10.0
That's a very hard thing to do.
16:12.2
Because sa presidency,
16:13.1
isa lang binaboto.
16:15.1
ang daan mo pwede
16:17.0
15 million as a presidential candidate
16:18.9
is very different
16:21.2
as a senatorial candidate.
16:22.4
And the 15 million
16:25.0
to the 16 million
16:25.7
that Duterte got.
16:26.4
Although, of course,
16:26.9
there are different
16:28.8
But nevertheless,
16:29.7
that the large plurality,
16:31.2
at least a quarter of voters,
16:33.6
as at least the president
16:37.7
a much bigger plurality
16:39.8
to see her at least
16:42.0
24 senators out there
16:43.4
and one of the 12
16:44.2
to be elected next year.
16:47.4
has a very good chance
16:48.3
of not only making
16:49.5
but also top 5 even,
16:52.4
If she really goes for it,
16:54.0
really mobilizes for it,
16:56.3
the pink movement,
17:01.4
and the good reputation
17:02.8
and the fighting spirit
17:04.0
that she demonstrated
17:05.1
during that 2022 elections.
17:09.7
of my skepticism,
17:11.4
constructive criticism
17:12.4
during the Kukulana opposition.
17:16.4
I have expressed this
17:17.9
who should have listened to it.
17:19.7
I've seen many people
17:20.9
not openly publicly
17:22.3
of course publicly
17:23.1
maraming galit sa atin
17:24.1
but off the record,
17:25.3
I think a lot of people
17:25.9
saw what we were doing.
17:28.0
sino ba naman tayo?
17:28.8
At the end of the day,
17:29.5
this is really up to
17:31.9
Now, the reason why
17:32.6
I'm raising this issue
17:33.4
is because remember,
17:34.6
when Lenny Robreda
17:36.2
for the presidency
17:38.6
ang sinabi niya is
17:39.4
ayaw niya bumalik
17:40.2
yung mga Marcoses.
17:41.9
fundamental na dahilan.
17:44.6
Ito yung pinakamalakas na dahilan
17:45.9
na bakit hindi siya
17:47.3
hindi siya nag-retire
17:48.6
or hindi siya bumalik na lang
17:52.1
Ito yung political politics
17:52.7
at bakit tumakbo siya
17:54.7
bilang presidente
17:55.5
which was something that
17:56.4
took many people by surprise.
18:00.0
Nanalo na si Marcos and all.
18:02.8
So far, of course,
18:03.6
it's not turning out as
18:04.9
horrific, problematic, etc.
18:07.3
as people thought initially
18:09.3
especially in the opposition.
18:12.3
pwede palitan kasing
18:16.7
even a bigger concern
18:18.7
than just the return of Marcoses?
18:22.1
a completely different
18:23.4
constitutional order
18:26.1
And, Lenny Robledo
18:26.8
seems to be one of that list
18:27.9
of presidential candidates.
18:29.8
one of the opposition,
18:31.3
real opposition leaders
18:32.1
who has a pretty good chance.
18:33.9
now in the survey,
18:34.7
she's not doing as well
18:35.6
as you would have expected her.
18:37.7
if she really goes for it,
18:39.0
she will announce it,
18:39.7
she tries to mobilize
18:41.9
considering she won
18:43.0
more than 15 million votes
18:44.8
as a presidential candidate.
18:46.4
And then, you have there
18:47.3
Bah Makino, right?
18:49.6
It's interesting.
18:50.4
In fact, Bah Makino
18:51.4
ranks higher than her.
18:52.5
any other presidential candidate.
18:55.3
opposition-affiliated
18:57.4
Opposition-affiliated candidate.
18:59.5
You know, up to 10th position
19:01.4
ang pwede niya makuha.
19:02.9
Ang preference rating niya is
19:04.6
around a quarter of voters.
19:06.5
And, awareness niya is also 100%.
19:09.4
Napakataas yung awareness level.
19:13.8
obviously, he was a senator.
19:15.7
I mean, the thing is,
19:18.2
I think the Aquino name
19:19.4
has not been done justice to.
19:23.1
I'm among people who
19:24.4
raise constructive criticisms
19:26.8
dun sa mga kakulangan
19:28.3
ng mga two Aquino administrations.
19:31.3
But, at the same time,
19:34.8
na kasalanan ng mga Aquino.
19:37.4
the first thing you can say
19:38.7
Corazon Aquino and Pinoy
19:40.6
hindi sila corrupt.
19:43.0
something hard to say
19:44.0
about many presidents.
19:46.7
in our political system.
19:48.3
People are honest.
19:49.5
People are incorruptible.
19:50.7
I think both Corazon Aquino
19:52.8
anyone who has a reasonable
20:00.4
And, in fairness,
20:01.2
I think as far as
20:01.8
intention is also concerned,
20:04.0
both Pinoy and Corazon Aquino
20:05.2
had very good intentions.
20:06.2
Now, we can talk about
20:07.0
dun sa mga kakulangan nila.
20:08.3
We had separate vlogs
20:11.7
Corazon Aquino did not do
20:12.9
when she could have pushed
20:14.9
transformative change
20:15.9
under the Constitution.
20:16.8
She could have pushed for
20:17.7
debt cancellation, etc.
20:19.3
Partial debt cancellation,
20:20.6
odious debt cancellation.
20:22.1
Marami din tayo sinabi
20:23.0
about Mama Sapano crisis,
20:25.0
handling of that,
20:25.8
post-crisis management,
20:27.5
about Hayan Yolanda,
20:29.7
even about the economy
20:31.2
in the West Philippine Sea.
20:32.0
I had some reservations
20:33.0
with the Aquino administration.
20:35.3
all of those things,
20:36.0
I think Nino Aquino,
20:37.0
the sacrifice he made
20:37.8
for the Philippines,
20:39.0
the good intentions
20:42.4
that both Corazon Aquino
20:43.6
and Pinoy represented,
20:44.7
despite all of their shortcomings,
20:46.2
many, many shortcomings,
20:47.6
in terms of bringing about
20:49.2
and inclusive development.
20:50.6
I think you need someone
20:51.5
from the Aquino community
20:52.1
and the Aquino clan
20:54.1
and fight for that name.
20:56.2
And perhaps the best person
20:59.0
He's the fourth, right?
21:00.5
Benigno Aquino the fourth
21:01.8
or something like that.
21:02.6
I think he's the right guy.
21:04.0
Very smart person.
21:06.2
Again, I had some concerns
21:07.8
about the campaign
21:08.8
of Lenny last year,
21:10.8
very good friends of mine
21:11.9
who know Bam Aquino
21:13.8
I never had the privilege
21:15.4
or exchange notes with him.
21:17.1
But from some people
21:18.1
who actually meet him,
21:21.7
they always tell me
21:22.5
he's actually the very smart,
21:25.5
he was the campaign manager
21:26.5
of Lenny and all,
21:28.4
he was always the one
21:29.3
who was thinking ahead
21:30.7
and thinking outside the box.
21:32.1
But for some reason,
21:33.4
hindi parating umubra
21:36.3
more ahead of time
21:38.5
or outside the box thinking
21:41.2
because there were other people
21:42.1
to take in consideration.
21:43.3
sigurado yung mga hardcore dilawan.
21:45.4
We can talk about that.
21:46.7
Now, going back to this.
21:49.1
So I think having someone
21:50.7
and as successful,
21:53.7
and someone with that name,
21:55.1
coming back to the Senate
21:56.0
would be something
21:56.6
very, very important.
21:57.7
And I think the Kino name
21:58.9
has to be done justice to.
22:00.5
Now, I think there was a lot of,
22:02.6
how should I put it?
22:04.6
over-valorization of Akinos.
22:06.9
alam mo na, di ba?
22:07.7
I don't want to go down that,
22:09.3
you know what I'm talking about, right?
22:10.5
Na parang perfect sila
22:12.5
which was not true,
22:14.4
But at the same time,
22:15.0
I think there was
22:15.5
an over-correction of that.
22:17.2
Yung pambabastos,
22:18.6
all the fake news,
22:20.0
all of the horrible things
22:23.7
So you need to balance that.
22:24.7
You need to correct that.
22:25.6
You need to provide a,
22:29.8
you have to carry forward
22:30.7
yung legacy ng Akinos.
22:32.0
And I think Bahami Kino
22:32.7
would be the right one.
22:33.4
And then Coco Pimentel.
22:34.5
I'm sorry, Coco Pimentel.
22:40.7
to have a short chat
22:41.8
with him earlier this year
22:43.0
in an international conference
22:45.2
And I got to talk to also
22:46.5
people who know him
22:48.2
and about his advocacy
22:52.3
I also watch him in person.
22:54.5
talks about things.
22:57.2
he has some sort of
22:59.3
Pretty smart guy.
23:01.2
I think he's also
23:02.4
very reflective person.
23:04.2
I think nag-reflect siya
23:05.2
dun sa mga shortcomings nila
23:07.1
as an opposition.
23:09.2
The few short interactions
23:12.8
or panels that I shared,
23:15.4
there was no resentment
23:16.2
or anything like that.
23:17.1
He was very cool.
23:17.8
He was very chill.
23:20.1
yung mga ibang kameta,
23:21.7
ang galit sa akin
23:23.2
akong sinabi last year
23:25.8
I raised big questions
23:29.8
If you're gonna question
23:30.7
Paul Sation and SWS
23:32.4
ang alternative mo,
23:35.3
I also raised questions
23:38.0
Rappler school of thought
23:38.9
that this is all about
23:40.5
or something like that.
23:41.1
I also questioned that
23:42.1
and I stand by that argument
23:43.5
because it's valid.
23:46.3
empirical argument
23:47.0
and any real strategist,
23:48.9
political strategist,
23:49.6
or social scientist
23:53.9
But going back to this,
23:56.7
the thing I'm saying here
24:00.9
mukhang yung signal na naman
24:01.7
ay medyo sublight.
24:04.1
but the thing is,
24:04.9
I sense with people
24:06.0
like Kiko Pangilinan,
24:08.4
sufficiently reflective people.
24:10.3
These are smart people.
24:11.8
who'd gravitate us.
24:12.8
So I think having him back
24:14.9
will be very important
24:15.9
for the opposition
24:17.6
And I think he also
24:19.1
of the Duterte years
24:20.6
that if opposition
24:24.1
they have to be palaban.
24:25.7
And they should not
24:28.2
dun sa mga trolls,
24:30.0
dun sa mga horrible people
24:31.1
who have been poisoning
24:31.9
the well of democratic discourse.
24:34.1
these three individuals,
24:35.6
should they decide
24:36.2
to run for office,
24:38.4
or potentially three of them,
24:40.4
I think they can make
24:43.1
make a difference
24:44.6
kung walang galing
24:45.4
sa real opposition
24:46.4
or progressive opposition,
24:48.0
dun sa susunod na Senado,
24:50.1
you're essentially what?
24:50.9
I think just reason?
24:51.7
There, good luck with that.
24:57.8
kailan ba nanala si Coco?
25:00.2
Diba 2019 siya tumakbo,
25:03.9
Is he even here dito?
25:07.5
I'm not even sure
25:08.1
if Coco is running again
25:10.7
hindi ko siya nakikita
25:12.1
dun sa mga competitor.
25:19.7
is here and there,
25:20.1
he doesn't represent
25:21.7
progressive opposition.
25:23.4
So, super, super, super,
25:28.1
yung totoong opposition
25:34.8
so parang Riza na lang.
25:36.6
And if the pro-BBM camp,
25:41.8
parang you'd rather have
25:42.6
the BBM camp win.
25:43.6
But if the BBM camp
25:44.3
completely dominates
25:45.3
the 2025 elections,
25:47.5
And then they go for
25:48.2
constitutional change.
25:49.0
And then si Riza lang
25:50.3
single opposition.
25:51.7
good luck na lang,
25:53.1
Good luck na lang.
25:55.1
hindi lang mabobox out
25:56.1
ang totoong opposition dyan,
25:57.5
baka mabobox out din
26:01.3
more progressive principles
26:02.5
and values that you want to see
26:04.5
in our constitution.
26:05.7
yun po yung konteksto
26:06.8
ng ating conversation today.
26:10.9
the internet is horrible.
26:12.1
Nadisconnect na naman ako
26:14.2
Nakaka-distract kasi yan
26:15.1
kasi you're building momentum,
26:16.5
you're trying to say
26:17.8
and then the internet
26:21.7
all I'm saying here
26:24.2
it's not gonna be easy.
26:26.5
Maraming mga obstacles.
26:28.0
Malakas ang kalaban.
26:29.0
Maraming re-electionists.
26:30.7
agree ako kay Ronald
26:32.4
ito yung pinakamahirap
26:34.3
in recent memory.
26:36.0
Ang daming malalakas
26:37.0
na re-electionists.
26:44.8
and then the more
26:46.6
or totally pro-Marcos camp.
26:48.2
Parang ganun ng labanan.
26:50.0
there are at least
26:51.0
from the real opposition
26:52.2
who have a pretty good chance
26:53.9
of making it to Magic 12.
26:55.5
And I won't be surprised.
26:56.8
Lenny doesn't run,
27:00.8
and then siguro Lenny
27:01.7
could rally behind
27:02.8
another candidate
27:03.7
like Chell Jokno.
27:10.5
or progressive credentials.
27:13.4
Someone like that.
27:16.3
So they need to get
27:17.5
at least two or three people in.
27:21.0
at hindi ma-totally
27:21.7
boxed out ang opposition.
27:30.5
And then she can become
27:31.3
also a rallying cry
27:32.1
at the LGU level,
27:33.2
at the executive level
27:34.2
for the real opposition.
27:35.5
Yun lang sinasabi natin.
27:37.2
Thank you very much,
27:42.8
And at the same time,
27:43.8
wag naman kayo masyadong
27:44.6
dismissive sa lahat ng surveys.
27:46.0
POS Asia is the most
27:47.8
as far as chances
27:49.1
of the opposition is concerned.
27:50.1
Kung kinumparam mo yun
27:51.2
dun sa mga less established ones
27:52.9
na pinag-usapan natin
27:54.8
in previous vlogs.
27:57.0
is the most hopeful one.
27:59.9
I don't have many reasons
28:00.8
to doubt this one.
28:01.9
I think this is a legit one,
28:03.4
this copy that we saw.
28:04.2
And I'll post it down there
28:05.1
for you guys to see it
28:08.8
all I'm saying here
28:11.4
that is not only worth fighting,
28:13.0
it should be fought.
28:14.3
Because there's a very big chance
28:15.6
that we'll be pushed
28:16.2
for constitutional change
28:20.0
because the pro-BBM camp
28:21.3
may do really quite well,
28:22.8
so they may have the numbers.
28:25.0
because they may decide
28:27.2
na hindi na makabalik
28:28.2
yung mga Duterte.
28:29.0
So they'll prevent
28:31.9
last time I checked,
28:33.9
is the frontrunner
28:35.1
as far as presidential race
28:38.9
as a strong alternative.
28:40.1
I'm not sure if Martin Rivaldes
28:42.5
match Sarah Duterte.
28:44.1
Things could change.
28:48.8
why should we even
28:50.1
We can just change
28:50.7
the constitution,
28:51.4
go parliamentary,
28:52.8
and if someone like,
28:54.4
someone close to BBM
28:55.2
can become the prime minister.
28:56.3
And all you need for that
28:57.1
is to have the biggest party,
28:58.6
biggest number of votes,
29:00.2
everything will be nice.
29:01.4
So that's a very,
29:02.1
very big possibility.
29:03.8
I think more than
29:05.7
So you need to have
29:06.8
more than just Riza
29:08.0
there in the Senate.
29:08.9
That's what I'm saying.
29:10.8
if she doesn't run,
29:11.9
she can still be the leader
29:16.9
or a congresswoman.
29:20.0
would be also nice
29:20.5
I think for Lenny.
29:21.3
She could also be
29:22.6
sa lower house also.
29:24.3
Kind of a fiscalizer
29:26.3
Thank you very much
29:28.6
sa mga nakakulong
29:29.2
ng connection problem
29:30.5
especially sa Facebook
29:33.7
kasi ginagamit ko
29:35.8
Hindi naman siya mura
29:38.9
thank you very much guys
29:39.7
and talk to you soon.
29:41.3
Maraming salamat.
29:41.8
Then please continue
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subscribe to our channels.
29:46.0
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29:48.8
subscribe din dito
29:49.7
sa YouTube channel
29:50.7
para maayos din natin
29:52.4
itong verification natin.
29:54.7
the two other platforms
29:56.3
hopefully we can verify
29:58.8
because I'm also thinking
30:00.1
of going TikTok live.
30:05.4
So I need to verify
30:07.0
para legit talaga tayo.
30:09.2
verify itong account
30:11.3
so we have to meet
30:12.2
a certain threshold
30:12.9
and hopefully also
30:16.5
Yung other naman,
30:19.5
four other platforms,
30:20.3
they're all verified anyway.
30:21.6
So alam nyo na ako
30:22.5
naman talaga yan.
30:23.1
Legit naman talaga yan.
30:24.7
Thank you very much.
30:25.9
and talk to you soon.
30:36.5
Talk to you soon.
30:37.6
sa connection sa una.
30:39.0
Nagshare-share lang
30:40.5
Ang labo talaga ito.
30:42.2
thank you very much, guys.
30:43.2
Talk to you soon.
