02:08.2
Gusto ko lang magpasalamat po sa inyo.
02:10.6
Yan, kasi hindi tayo nagpasalamat sa mga...
02:13.1
mga kaibigan natin dyan, mga kameta natin dyan.
02:15.6
Strong showing na naman tayo.
02:17.9
Puyak ka siya kahapon.
02:19.4
Ayan, dami natin mga kameta dyan
02:21.3
sa BBC World News Event.
02:26.2
Of course, hindi ko sinasabing na andun kayo para sa akin lang
02:29.4
Of course, ayun na.
02:29.8
Andun kayo para sa BBC.
02:31.8
Andun kayo para sa...
02:33.3
dun sa mga ibang guests natin, mga mga galing.
02:36.0
Si Justice Carpio.
02:38.3
Si, of course, si Paeng.
02:40.4
Ayan, napakagaling naman yung mga ibang kasama natin sa panel.
02:44.1
Napakagaling yung mga...
02:46.0
Ayan, si Dean from Ateneo,
02:48.0
ang kaibigan natin dyan.
02:49.9
And then, of course, yung host,
02:53.2
Napakagaling talaga yung host kahapon.
02:56.0
And, of course, magpasalamat man tayo
02:58.0
kay Mark Zuckerberg.
02:59.8
Inaayos na yung na-jumper nila dyan sa Facebook.
03:04.3
Mukhang nag-jumper-jumperan sila.
03:07.1
At mukhang kagabi,
03:07.9
ito ang tuwa si...
03:11.5
Ito ang tuwa si Paeng Elon
03:12.8
na sila lang yata is...
03:16.9
In fairness, okay naman yung YouTube kahapon.
03:19.0
O, pasensya nalang doon sa mga kameta natin
03:22.0
Okay naman ang YouTube natin ngayon.
03:25.4
Nagpa-panic mode na yung mga kasama natin kagabi.
03:28.2
Sabi nila, magpa-friendster na.
03:32.5
Ang problema ko naman, sabi ko,
03:34.7
si Jeff Cano ba yung nag-comment doon?
03:36.2
Sabi ko, ang problema ko naman,
03:37.3
nahack talaga yung friendster ko.
03:39.7
Kasi nung una, akala ko,
03:40.9
nahack tayo sa Facebook eh.
03:42.6
Sabi ko, nakakatakot talaga ito.
03:45.0
Sabi ko, nakakatakot talaga ito
03:46.7
dahil nililog out ka.
03:49.8
Pagpasok mo, nilagay mo yung password mo.
03:51.8
Ayaw pa rin ipasok.
03:53.2
Tapos, kahit nakapasok ka,
03:55.1
biglang nagpa-problema ulit.
03:56.7
So, for around 15 to 20 minutes,
03:59.8
situation until sabi ko,
04:01.0
ganito, ganito ang solusyon dyan.
04:03.4
Pupunta tayo sa ex-Twitter Elon Musk world.
04:08.5
So, nagpost tayo dyan.
04:10.1
Ano ba, Facebook is down.
04:12.2
Ayan, dami na sumagot.
04:13.8
Tapos, ang funny.
04:17.9
ang funny, napaka-conny naman.
04:19.9
Nakakatawa kasi, guys, yung lugar.
04:22.0
Hindi, nakakatawa kasi, guys,
04:24.2
exactly yung sinabi ng mga tao sa comment section.
04:30.3
na parang puro silang mga comments.
04:31.6
Pero, oh nga, nakalamin,
04:33.4
Bakit ganun, nahihirapan kami pumasok.
04:35.3
So, nakonfirm natin.
04:38.1
just to be clear,
04:39.8
hindi lang po down ang messenger.
04:42.2
Hindi po lang down ang Facebook.
04:47.2
Hindi lang po down ang,
04:51.0
Ang down din po dyan,
04:53.3
hindi, WhatsApp kasi gumagana siya eh.
04:55.9
Parang down din siya yung threads.
04:59.3
Kaso, alam ko wala nakapansin na down yung threads
05:02.9
kasi wala sa atin yung gumagamit ng threads eh.
05:05.7
Dami na natin mga sinisabi sa buhay
05:08.9
pero bumalik rin pala tayo dyan sa TwitterX na yan.
05:11.9
So, dami natin hanash kay Mahanash Nylon most na Karen boy na yan.
05:15.9
Kevin boy na yan.
05:18.1
Darren boy na yan.
05:22.0
nawala rin ng isang oras ang thread
05:25.3
doon sa mga minamahal natin followers
05:28.1
na mahilig mag-follow sa atin sa thread.
05:30.0
Ilan lang ba yung followers natin?
05:32.2
ang yabang ko sa thread sa ano eh.
05:33.9
At least, verified tayo dyan.
05:36.2
So, guys, ito ah.
05:37.7
Thank you so much again for show force,
05:39.9
mga kameta natin.
05:44.2
Sabi tuloy nung isang dumaan dyan.
05:48.7
So, dami natin mga kaibigan.
05:50.0
Nakipag-catch up tayo.
05:52.0
Nakipag-usap tayo.
05:53.3
So, thank you so much guys sa dumaan.
05:55.2
Akala ko mga sampung tao lang siguro doon.
05:57.2
Doon yung mga kamag-anak nung iba.
05:58.6
Doon yung kapatid ng iba.
05:59.8
Nagdala ng staff yung iba.
06:02.1
Nagdala ng videography.
06:04.1
Yung pala pagpasok natin.
06:06.3
wow, wow, we ang dating.
06:09.6
Shucks, ang haba nung pila.
06:10.9
Kaya tuloy, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
06:13.8
Kaya, good luck na lang.
06:15.2
Good luck na lang.
06:17.3
thank you so much again.
06:20.0
medyo na-depressed na ako kanina
06:21.5
kasi mukhang wala pala siyang video.
06:23.8
Which is like weird.
06:25.4
Which is like weird dahil
06:27.2
yung version na ginawa nila sa Poland
06:29.3
nakita ko sa online, sa YouTube,
06:32.4
napakagandang videos,
06:33.7
napakagandang visuals.
06:34.7
I was hoping something similar
06:36.0
but for some reason,
06:38.2
Kasi tumawag yung mga kaibigan natin,
06:39.6
mga kapusan natin dyan na iba kanina.
06:41.0
May nakausap tayo.
06:44.7
hindi, mukhang ang ano eh,
06:47.2
may mga local media
06:49.1
na nagvideo lang ng konti ata nung una
06:52.1
pero nawala na sila eh.
06:53.7
So, wala siyang video,
06:56.6
Which is like shocking
06:57.9
considering ang daming tao,
06:59.6
considering sobrang excited ng tao,
07:01.4
considering how daming tanong ng tao.
07:05.0
nakadalawang times na ano ah,
07:07.5
eh, may favoritism yata yun eh.
07:10.1
No, it was very good.
07:11.1
It was very Town Hall style
07:12.8
which is what I like.
07:13.5
Kaya sabi ko kung mag-
07:15.0
mag-meta event tayo hopefully one day.
07:17.4
Hindi ko alam, wala pang ano.
07:18.9
Naisipin pa natin kung one day mag-meta event tayo.
07:22.1
I-engage mo talaga yung audience.
07:23.8
Back and forth question.
07:25.0
Hindi lang yung mga nagpapakit, yung mga nasa...
07:28.6
Thank you so much, guys.
07:31.1
Yun lang, nakaka-bomber lang.
07:33.1
Wala pala siyang video.
07:35.0
At wala akong nang...
07:35.9
wala tayong nakita matinong video sa atin.
07:39.7
Yung mga video na mayroon tayo,
07:41.1
purang layo-layo-layo.
07:42.4
So, kung yung iba sa inyo,
07:43.7
may video na mas maganda or something,
07:45.3
or alam nyo mayroon nagvideo,
07:46.4
please, pakisend forward.
07:48.0
Kasi may mga parts na
07:49.1
gustong-gusto ko yung discussion.
07:51.1
I mean, I get it.
07:52.9
I mean, of course,
07:55.2
this is gonna be also a podcast.
07:56.6
Pero iba pa rin, guys.
07:57.6
Iba pa rin talaga.
07:59.6
I mean, guys, in this world
08:01.6
that we live in right now,
08:03.6
kahit ikaw pinakamagaling na tao sa mundo,
08:06.6
kung hindi ito nakikita ng ibang mo tao,
08:08.6
hindi ito nakikita ng rest of the world,
08:10.6
literally, hindi nila nakikita,
08:13.6
good luck na lang.
08:14.6
Hindi ma-appreciate yan.
08:16.6
I'm 100% sure, guys,
08:18.6
yung mga tao na akala natin
08:20.6
the best in the world,
08:21.6
na napaka ganyan-ganyan,
08:24.6
akala lang natin yan
08:25.6
kasi sila lang yung
08:26.6
nakikita natin ng magaling
08:27.6
dun sa mga nagpapakita sa mundo.
08:29.6
But I'm 100% sure, guys,
08:31.6
ang daming mga magagaling dyan,
08:33.6
na for some reason,
08:34.6
hindi nila na-appreciate ang video,
08:38.6
hindi nila na-appreciate ang communications.
08:41.6
At I'll be honest,
08:43.6
maraming tao dyan.
08:44.6
Ang daming mga award naman,
08:45.6
mga ek-ek na ganyan.
08:48.6
hindi yan dahil sa kagalingan nila or something,
08:50.6
magaling lang yung PR team nila.
08:51.6
Magaling lang yung PR nila.
08:53.6
Kaya ako, you know,
08:55.6
as much as I'm continuing to do the hard work,
08:57.6
so kanina actually may class tayo,
08:59.6
tapos interview tayo,
09:00.6
write the words with Monocle,
09:01.6
et cetera, back to back.
09:02.6
I always say this,
09:04.6
do your usual everyday hard work.
09:07.6
Kung ikaw ay academic,
09:09.6
If you're a journalist,
09:11.6
If you're a researcher,
09:13.6
But hindi pwede nandun lang sa mundo na yan.
09:16.6
It has to get out.
09:17.6
The rest of the world has to know it
09:19.6
if it's something good.
09:21.6
Because ang daming basura dyan
09:25.6
ang daming nonsense dyan in the world,
09:27.6
ang daming tao na undeserving
09:29.6
or daming tao na overrated na gano'n,
09:34.6
magaling lang sila,
09:35.6
maka-PR lang sila.
09:37.6
doon sa mga haters natin
09:38.6
na gusto magsalita,
09:39.6
umayos kayo dyan.
09:40.6
Wala akong production team.
09:43.6
I'm doing everything like that.
09:45.6
Yung innovation styles,
09:47.6
yung mga slicing, splicing,
09:49.6
yung mga R&R, R&M,
09:51.6
lahat na yan, guys.
09:53.6
Iniisip natin yan.
09:54.6
Na-strategize natin yan.
09:58.6
Hindi tayo katulad ng iba na may complete production team,
10:01.6
may manager, may talent manager,
10:03.6
may mga contacts, may networks,
10:05.6
may mayaman na oligarch na kaibigan,
10:07.6
whether sa Pilipinas,
10:08.6
whether sa Silicon Valley,
10:12.6
Yes, I speak for myself.
10:14.6
And if I happen to speak okay in my own behalf,
10:17.6
hindi tawag PR dyan.
10:19.6
PR is when you have a whole production team behind you,
10:21.6
you have reputation,
10:22.6
you have reputation management,
10:24.6
blah, blah, blah, behind you.
10:25.6
You have network schmoozing with the rich people
10:28.6
and connected people.
10:29.6
Guys, honestly, yun ang hindi ko talaga kaya.
10:32.6
Kaya sabi ko, paano?
10:34.6
Kasi may mga nagsasabi,
10:35.6
Richard, bakit di ka nalang mag-politiko?
10:37.6
Bakit di ka nalang mag-ganyong-ganyong?
10:38.6
And iniisip ko, parang,
10:40.6
hindi kailangan ko makipag-shoons mga tao,
10:45.6
Tapos sa mga mayayaman,
10:49.6
It's like, of all people,
10:50.6
I'm like, literally,
10:51.6
the last people who's gonna...
10:53.6
Siyempre, pwede mo sabihin nangyabang lang yun.
10:55.6
Pero guys, ano naman,
10:56.6
ako may sense of dignity talaga ako.
11:00.6
meron naman tayo mga times na baka naman,
11:03.6
Pero, I mean, gets mo?
11:04.6
Iba pa rin yung schmoozing sa politika.
11:07.6
Wala akong patience.
11:08.6
Kung walang kwentang kausap ng tao,
11:13.6
kahit anong yaman nila, whatever.
11:15.6
Eh, never mind, man.
11:17.6
No offense. Diba?
11:18.6
I'd rather spend time with people na
11:20.6
hindi galing sa ako.
11:21.6
Hindi sa malaking pamilya,
11:22.6
hindi soprang sikat,
11:24.6
hindi, I don't know,
11:27.6
Pero, malalim mag-isip.
11:29.6
Malalim ang pagmamahal sa bayan,
11:32.6
Malalim ang pag-intindi
11:33.6
sa mga malalaking tanong sa buhay,
11:35.6
mga existential questions.
11:36.6
Yun po yung mga gusto natin dyan.
11:38.6
So, I'm just saying, guys.
11:39.6
I'm just saying, guys.
11:40.6
Okay, having said all of that,
11:42.6
tapos na yung drama natin.
11:44.6
Pag-usapan natin ito.
11:51.6
Doon sa mga hindi nakafollow sa atin.
11:54.6
Kasi nga, down ang meta kagabi.
11:57.6
So, nakahabol pa ako ng live.
11:59.6
Kaso medyo sobrang late nung 11 and all.
12:01.6
Yeah, pinag-usapan natin na yung
12:04.6
yung Quiboloy investigations and all of that.
12:08.6
And speaking of Quiboloy investigations,
12:11.6
of course, as you know,
12:12.6
Senator Rizzo Hondiveros officially pushed for,
12:17.6
isisapina na itong pastor na ito,
12:20.6
etong person of interest,
12:21.6
dahil etong person of interest na ito ay
12:23.6
hindi nagpapakita,
12:25.6
nagpakita ng contempt,
12:26.6
hindi nirespeto yung jurisdiction,
12:29.6
yung mandato ng Senado.
12:32.6
So, nag-push na etong senadora natin
12:36.6
for etong sopina na talaga
12:41.6
Contempt po yung nakikita nila dito sa
12:43.6
no-show na naman ni Bo Sing.
12:47.6
Sabi, ba't kasi hindi nakikinig kay, ano,
12:49.6
ba't hindi kasi nakikinig kay Tatay Digong?
12:52.6
Diba sabi ni Tatay, magpa-resto ka na lang,
12:54.6
wala ka naman, minor crime lang naman daw, eh.
12:56.6
Minor, minor lang daw.
12:58.6
Hindi ko alam sa anong mundo minor yung mga,
13:00.6
alam naman natin yung mga cases,
13:01.6
na kailangan ko pa iilabas yung listahan.
13:03.6
Eto, eto. Pero, mukhang,
13:07.6
isang dahilan na komportable.
13:10.6
Isang dahilan na may kumpiyansa.
13:13.6
Yung isang tao dyan na hindi magpakita sa Senado at
13:16.6
mag-drama-drama dyan, ay dahil na,
13:17.6
mag-drama-drama dyan, ay dahil na,
13:18.6
ay dahil meron siya mga,
13:22.6
yung mga nag-abogado para sa kanya na hindi naman abogado.
13:24.6
Yung mga nagka-constitutional expert na wala naman expertise.
13:28.6
Eto, eto, eto, eto, eto.
13:29.6
Ito yung pinakamagaling niyong senador.
13:31.6
Ayan, si Robin Hood Padilla.
13:37.6
ipagpaumanhin na po niyo,
13:39.6
aking pong tinututulan ang naging pasya na makontempt si Pastor.
13:46.6
Pero in fairness, ha,
13:48.6
not in fairness dun sa position ni Robin Padilla.
13:53.6
So as you may know,
13:54.6
procedurally speaking, si Bossing,
13:57.6
kailangan niya mag-file ng,
14:00.6
mag-forward ng official position paper.
14:04.6
Bakit sa kanyang palagay,
14:05.6
hindi dapat magkakaroon ng contempt case laban dito sa Pastor na ito.
14:12.6
In the coming days,
14:13.6
siguro by next Monday,
14:14.6
siguro or by early next week,
14:17.6
siguro magkakaroon siya ng explanation.
14:19.6
So, hindi ko nakita ng explanation ni Kuya.
14:25.6
you know, what's interesting here is that,
14:27.6
I mean, like, of course,
14:28.6
eh, no surprise na gagawin naman ni
14:31.6
parang Robin Hood yan.
14:32.6
Alam niyo naman si Robin Hood.
14:34.6
Napaka-tapang yan eh.
14:35.6
Tapang-tapang talaga yan.
14:38.6
Napakagaling yan.
14:39.6
Kasa pag may ginawang China,
14:41.6
Kung may ginawa yung isang, ano,
14:44.6
eh, alam niyo na.
14:48.6
in fairness naman,
14:49.6
what I appreciated about, ah,
14:51.6
Robin Padilla dito,
14:54.6
is that yung pagkasabi niya is actually very
14:58.6
Very, very respectful.
15:00.6
Ah, yung nakatingin pa siya kay Ma'am Risa.
15:03.6
Hindi ko na malawas.
15:04.6
Baka, baka ma-ano tayo,
15:05.6
ma-content, ano, tayo.
15:08.6
Kasi nung nilabas ko yung news nung isang araw,
15:10.6
parang binoblock yung life ko, eh.
15:13.6
Eh, hindi ko na alam ano nangyari dyan.
15:15.6
Pero ito, ito, ito, guys, ah.
15:19.6
so, kung titignan niyo yung video,
15:21.6
hindi ko na nalabas dito.
15:22.6
Baka magkakaroon tayo ng copyright issue dito.
15:24.6
Ipo-post ko na yung link, mga kamayata.
15:26.6
Pwede naman tignan sa YouTube mismo, diba?
15:32.6
tapos nakatingin siya kay Ma'am Risa,
15:35.6
ay, kay Sen. Risa.
15:36.6
And then, very respectfully na sinabi niya.
15:40.6
tinututulan ang naging pasya,
15:43.6
Yung, in fairness,
15:49.6
alam mo na, diba?
15:50.6
Alam mo na, magpakabait na ako.
15:52.6
Di ko na sasabihin yung mga...
15:53.6
In fairness naman,
15:54.6
very gentleman-like and all.
15:56.6
And then, you could see also Sen. Rizonte
15:58.6
very respectfully naman,
16:00.6
essentially disagreeing.
16:01.6
Like, okay, you're entitled to making that intervention.
16:04.6
So, titignan natin if, ah,
16:06.6
hindi lang anong maging position paper ni Robin Hood Padilla,
16:09.6
pero kung makakuha siya ng enough votes, no,
16:12.6
dun sa relevant committees,
16:14.6
to block itong contempt case na ito para hindi ito umakyat
16:17.6
dun sa Senate President.
16:18.6
Now, as you know, guys,
16:21.6
there are a lot of discussions of coups
16:23.6
in all sense of the word,
16:25.6
including coups in the Senate,
16:27.6
na there were suspicions na kahapon as we were, you know,
16:30.6
getting into that BBC event and all of that.
16:33.6
Mukhang maraming nangyari dyan sa Senado.
16:36.6
Oh, by the way, speaking of which,
16:38.6
kasama natin si ka-RNR, si Ronald Llamas.
16:41.6
Thank you so much, Sir Ronaldo, for
16:43.6
dropping by the other day, yan, sa event natin.
16:46.6
Pumila-pila pa, napaka-humble talaga,
16:48.6
napaka-bayo talaga ito si Sir Ronald.
16:50.6
In fairness naman kay Sir Ronald,
16:52.6
we have to talk about it. So,
16:54.6
there are plans talaga na to oust, mukhang oust si
16:58.6
Mig Zubiri at mukhang they want to put someone na,
17:01.6
I don't know, mas, I don't know, ah,
17:05.6
alam mo naman sinong, alam naman naman natin, guys,
17:07.6
sinong kandidato to replace him, alright?
17:10.6
Ayan, pag-usapan natin yung susunod na episode. So,
17:12.6
actually, yun din isang concern kahapon dun sa Senado na yan,
17:17.6
itong ongoing coup attempts.
17:19.6
Alam mo, guys, ah, guys, nakakatakot.
17:21.6
Ang dami palang mga coup attempts, literally, ah,
17:24.6
right and left ngayon.
17:26.6
Sabi ko nga, yun yung problema kay BBM.
17:28.6
Dahil ang perception sa kanya ay conflict avoidant.
17:32.6
Ang perception sa kanya ay hindi siya ready to drop the
17:39.6
Inaabuso ng ibang tao, eh.
17:41.6
Eh, nagkakagulo-gulo na.
17:43.6
Pero, in fairness, I don't wanna also blame BBM for everything.
17:46.6
And I think this is more actually a function of Dutertes being there
17:50.6
rather than BBM, to be honest about it, ah.
17:53.6
Kasi ang gulo-gulo talaga, isang dahilan dyan,
17:55.6
dahil sa mga pinagkagawa ni Digong.
17:57.6
And of course, after six years of Digong,
17:59.6
parang normalized na yung bardagulan style of politics,
18:02.6
to be honest, ah.
18:03.6
Yan ang sense ko dito na talagang bardagulan talaga.
18:06.6
So, you have a toxic combination of a perception of having a weakness,
18:10.6
a perception of having a weak president na conflict avoidant.
18:13.6
At the same time,
18:14.6
you have a Karen, super Karen na ex-president
18:17.6
na namgabardagulan everyday.
18:20.6
And then, on top of that, guys,
18:22.6
and this is where, don't worry,
18:24.6
susundan pa rin natin yung flow natin sa title natin dito.
18:27.6
And then, on top of that, you have a situation whereby
18:31.6
the opposition is still fragmented, guys.
18:34.6
The opposition is still fragmented.
18:37.6
kung titignan nyo to, guys,
18:39.6
promise, promise, ah.
18:40.6
Kung titignan, okay.
18:42.6
Alam ko naman, namulat na kayo, eh.
18:44.6
Kasi alam ko, marami sa inyo nagagalit sa akin
18:46.6
at hindi kayo nag-agree sa akin nung sinisabi ko yung mga sinisabi ko
18:49.6
after elections and last year.
18:51.6
Pero alam ko, medyo namumulat na ibang tao, eh.
18:53.6
At napansin ko, yung mga sinisabi ko nung last year
18:56.6
or whatever year na yan,
18:59.6
ngayon, biglang sinisabi na rin ng ibang tao
19:01.6
who know a thing or two about politics, diba?
19:04.6
Or have served in the highest positions of office
19:06.6
and know a thing or two about opposition politics.
19:10.6
Now, having said that, guys,
19:13.6
if you look at Riza Ontiveros,
19:15.6
she's doing everything right
19:18.6
as an opposition leader.
19:19.6
As in, everything right.
19:21.6
She combines, guys,
19:26.6
and at the same time,
19:29.6
and ice, if I could put it that way.
19:34.6
when kailangan niya maging matapang,
19:37.6
talagang hindi siya
19:38.6
nagpapakita ng takot,
19:40.6
hindi siya nagpapakita ng, ah,
19:43.6
hindi siya nagpapakita ng,
19:44.6
hindi siya nagpapakita ng,
19:45.6
hindi siya nag, ah,
19:49.6
or like, eh, ganyan.
19:51.6
She went after Quiboloy.
19:53.6
And how important that is,
19:55.6
grabe, grabe talaga eh.
19:56.6
Only you see with Riza talaga.
19:57.6
I mean, I haven't,
20:02.6
the point is kung tapang lang,
20:04.6
of course, parang para sa akin,
20:05.6
mas matapang pa siya,
20:07.6
or at least kasing tapang sila,
20:13.6
kung tapang lang talaga yan,
20:17.6
there are at least two or four
20:18.6
na sobrang matapang na
20:19.6
opposition leaders
20:21.6
or former senators
20:25.6
na-interview na natin
20:26.6
si Sen. Trillanes,
20:27.6
na-interview na natin
20:28.6
si Sen. Leila de Lima,
20:30.6
ma-interview din natin
20:31.6
si Sen. Hendi Vera.
20:33.6
na-interview ko rin si
20:35.6
para dun sa isang show natin.
20:37.6
pag-uusapan tapang,
20:39.6
maraming matapang dyan
20:40.6
na hindi DDS camp.
20:44.6
maraming matapang dyan
20:47.6
the thing with Riza, though,
20:50.6
is that hindi lang siya matapang,
20:52.6
kaya rin niya mag-switch
20:54.6
into yung sobrang,
20:58.6
stateswoman-like,
21:00.6
at nakikita mo yung aura,
21:02.6
oh, yung aura niya eh,
21:11.6
I won't say disarm,
21:14.6
kita mo yung effect niya
21:15.6
kay Robin Padilla.
21:16.6
Like, si Robin Padilla,
21:20.6
very, ano rin siya,
21:21.6
respectful and all of that.
21:23.6
meron siyang ganun eh,
21:25.6
she has this aura that,
21:29.6
it calms you down,
21:31.6
and the way she talks,
21:32.6
very respectful and all.
21:34.6
the thing that makes Riza very special
21:36.6
political figure,
21:39.6
is that she combines
21:40.6
those two elements.
21:41.6
Almost two elements.
21:42.6
Kaya nga sabi ko,
21:43.6
kung tapang lang,
21:44.6
ang dami natin kilala
21:45.6
ng matapang na magaling
21:48.6
Since day in memorial.
21:50.6
yung kay Riza kasi,
21:54.6
may dignified aura,
21:58.6
And I'll add the third element.
22:05.6
is an award winning journalist.
22:06.6
Nanalo siya ng award
22:07.6
bilang isang journalist.
22:08.6
And I can tell you,
22:10.6
as someone who has also been journalist,
22:12.6
nominate lang naman
22:17.6
when you reach a certain level
22:19.6
of na award winning journalist ka na,
22:20.6
or nininominate ka na sa mga big awards
22:25.6
naka-develop ka ng certain
22:26.6
instinctive communication skills.
22:29.6
I mean, the thing I really appreciate
22:30.6
about Riza is that,
22:33.6
not only there is
22:34.6
depth to the person,
22:36.6
there's also strategic communication skills
22:42.6
Like, anyone who has a chance
22:46.6
hindi on the record,
22:47.6
hindi yung with the lights,
22:48.6
hindi yung ganyan-ganyan,
22:50.6
you would be so impressed
22:52.6
depth there is to this person,
23:01.6
straight to the point,
23:02.6
walang ganyan-ganyan,
23:05.6
beating around the bush,
23:09.6
discipline mag-isip,
23:10.6
discipline yung communication.
23:13.6
hindi eto yung press release
23:14.6
na galing sa office,
23:15.6
hindi eto yung sinasabi
23:19.6
nagpa-papakit lang,
23:20.6
nagpa-interviews,
23:21.6
nagpa-showbiz, showbiz,
23:23.6
hindi, hindi ganun,
23:25.6
like, siya mismo,
23:28.6
what was even more,
23:31.6
clarity of thought,
23:32.6
discipline in communications,
23:34.6
instinctive sa kanya,
23:35.6
kasi siya mismo journalist siya,
23:37.6
napakagaling na journalist ba,
23:39.6
And, matalinong tao eto,
23:41.6
Matalinong tao eto,
23:44.6
pero, in fairness,
23:45.6
all respects sa Ateneo also.
23:47.6
Nagturo naman ako dun, eh.
23:49.6
Now, going back to this,
23:50.6
but there's another also layer to her,
23:52.6
which is very, very impressive,
23:56.6
I think I didn't appreciate enough,
23:58.6
sorry na lang, ma'am,
23:59.6
pag narinig mo to,
24:00.6
I'm not saying na inundation,
24:02.6
yung nakausap po natin, guys,
24:05.6
huwag nyo napansin,
24:06.6
kailangan ko na mag haircut bukas,
24:07.6
pasensya na, alam mo,
24:08.6
pangit yung hair natin, okay?
24:09.6
Buti nga sabi ko,
24:10.6
in a way, sabi ko,
24:11.6
buti nga radio program yung kahapon,
24:15.6
hindi nga ikita yung pangit natin po.
24:17.6
balikan natin yan, guys.
24:21.6
The other layer to her
24:22.6
is also this political acumen
24:25.6
and reflectiveness
24:27.6
na first pinoint out yung
24:29.6
minamahal natin ang kaibigan
24:32.6
isa pang co-host natin
24:33.6
na isa sa mga paborito natin.
24:35.6
Ito rin, ito rin,
24:37.6
Hindi kasing level ni
24:38.6
Ronald Aldens Llamas,
24:39.6
pero crush ng bayan din ito.
24:42.6
colleagues pa lang kami sa atin yun,
24:43.6
crush ng bayan na ito,
24:44.6
eto si Leloy, diba?
24:46.6
The best ni si Leloy niyan.
24:47.6
Si Leloy pointed out
24:48.6
na tinuturing niyang kaibigan
24:52.6
they have conversations,
24:53.6
daw, like friends.
24:56.6
like I'm not, like,
25:00.6
I'm just quoting here, right?
25:02.6
Sobrang impressive daw si Riza.
25:04.6
And, sobrang reflective siya.
25:05.6
Sobrang reflective siya.
25:06.6
Hindi siya yung tipo na,
25:09.6
yung style ng mga ibang
25:10.6
opposition dyan na
25:11.6
pipilitin na nila yung
25:12.6
dating narratives,
25:13.6
dating explanation,
25:14.6
lahat na lang disinformation.
25:16.6
Alam nyo, yun ang nakakainis eh.
25:18.6
Kung si Robin Hood Padilla,
25:20.6
lahat na lang chacha.
25:22.6
lahat na lang bitcoin.
25:25.6
lahat na lang disinformation.
25:26.6
Adi, sara na natin yung,
25:28.6
ano, huwag na tayo mag-aaral.
25:30.6
bakit kayo iniwanan
25:32.6
bakit ang jowa mo?
25:34.6
Bakit natalang opposition?
25:36.6
Bakit nag-aaway si
25:42.6
Alam mo yung mga ganyan style.
25:43.6
Ang kagandaan kay Riza
25:46.6
nag-research siya,
25:49.6
nagko-compare siya,
25:50.6
she's open to it.
25:52.6
I was very impressed
25:53.6
with what she said.
25:54.6
When ako personally saw her
25:57.6
si Christian Esquerra pa yung
26:00.6
tapos ako yung nagtanong.
26:03.6
sobrang ganda ng sagot.
26:07.6
and very sensible.
26:09.6
Yung message discipline
26:10.6
but also yung clarity of thought.
26:12.6
Very good point, guys.
26:13.6
Kaya gusto ko itong live eh
26:14.6
kasi ang ganda ng mga comments niya.
26:16.6
May isa sabaw na.
26:17.6
Tagal lang nag-lecture ako.
26:18.6
Ang dami kong ginawa today eh.
26:19.6
May mga meetings,
26:20.6
meetings pa tayo.
26:21.6
Kanina umaga pa tayo
26:25.6
I really appreciate.
26:30.6
and I don't know,
26:32.6
tell is correct on this,
26:34.6
she also has this ability
26:35.6
to work with many people
26:37.6
from this different side
26:38.6
of the political spectrum
26:40.6
in order to push for the right
26:44.6
and to push for the right actions
26:48.6
yung isa pang maganda kay
26:49.6
Risa Ondiveros is,
26:50.6
hindi siya self-righteous.
26:53.6
Hindi siya self-righteous.
26:54.6
Hindi siya yung feeling kung sino.
26:57.6
So, it's her ability to work.
26:58.6
And hindi rin siya pa-woke
27:04.6
Yung isa diyan parang
27:05.6
ayoko yung mga iba diyan
27:09.6
May depth sa kanya.
27:10.6
And at the same time,
27:11.6
there's political maturity to her
27:13.6
I don't know about
27:14.6
other opposition leaders.
27:17.6
all of those positive things
27:19.6
I think she's sticking
27:22.6
Ang big question pa rin dito is,
27:26.6
ano bang plano ni Leni talaga
27:29.6
Kasi mukhang 2025
27:30.6
will really be her
27:33.6
local government position
27:34.6
which I completely understand
27:36.6
But the thing is,
27:37.6
hindi magkakaroon talaga ng
27:40.6
around Risa Ontiveros
27:41.6
as the future of the opposition.
27:43.6
I'm not the only one.
27:45.6
you had Sen. Trillanes
27:47.6
have also emphasized this.
27:50.6
halos lahat ng mga kausap natin,
27:51.6
mga ka-host natin dito,
27:52.6
nakikita nila yung value
27:53.6
ni Risa Ontiveros
27:55.6
as the future opposition leader.
27:57.6
Hindi magkakaroon,
28:04.6
the pink movement
28:06.6
progressive movement
28:07.6
in the Philippines
28:08.6
to mobilize behind
28:13.6
magkakaroon ng clarity dito
28:21.6
Kaya figure head,
28:22.6
there could be only one head,
28:23.6
figure head ng opposition.
28:27.6
yung concern natin ngayon.
28:30.6
if there are people
28:32.6
Lenny can still run
28:37.6
in fairness naman to her,
28:38.6
she's number three,
28:40.6
some of the presidential surveys
28:41.6
behind Rafi Tulfo
28:43.6
and Sara Duterte,
28:47.6
I think as long as
28:48.6
she's number three there
28:49.6
or something like that,
28:50.6
and unless Risa ranks higher
28:52.6
than her in surveys and all,
28:58.6
kasi isa lang talaga pwede,
29:02.6
I'll tell this honestly,
29:03.6
it cannot be two figure heads.
29:04.6
There could be only one opposition leader,
29:07.6
one true opposition leader,
29:11.6
we have multiple women,
29:13.6
great opposition leaders here.
29:16.6
this is one of the things
29:17.6
I'm so proud about
29:18.6
being Filipino is that
29:19.6
there's no shortage
29:21.6
of great women leaders.
29:22.6
But at the end of the day,
29:23.6
we have to choose one.
29:24.6
And there has to be
29:25.6
a rallying effect behind
29:29.6
someone would say,
29:30.6
maybe you can square the circle
29:32.6
and Lenny will still run for president
29:33.6
and then Risa for vice president.
29:38.6
Maybe that could be an option.
29:41.6
and siguro Risa would be okay with that.
29:43.6
Ang tingko lang is,
29:47.6
Risa will still be a secondary figure.
29:50.6
so anong bang hintayin natin?
29:52.6
Anong bang kailangan niyang gawin?
29:54.6
And then at the same time,
29:57.6
speaking of vice president,
30:01.6
nakausap natin yung mga
30:06.6
baka mag-resign na lang daw si Sarah
30:08.6
at tatakbo na lang siyang
30:14.6
can you imagine that?
30:18.6
there are peculiar circumstances
30:19.6
and I'm not gonna talk about ICC
30:24.6
the office of the vice president,
30:30.6
kung ikaw hindi type ng presidente,
30:32.6
I mean it in a political sense
30:33.6
and not in that iyak-iyak sense na,
30:38.6
kung hindi ka talagang vibes,
30:40.6
vibes ng presidente na totoong-toto,
30:45.6
kung presidente ka,
30:46.6
you're gonna have always some,
30:48.6
with the vice president,
30:50.6
yung vice president is just,
30:53.6
kunting pitik tayo na yung next president,
30:56.6
ang hihina ng position ng vice president,
30:59.6
in the Philippines,
31:00.6
at least in the US,
31:01.6
kung vice president ka,
31:02.6
which is still not the best position,
31:04.6
kaya nga si Biden daw,
31:05.6
ayaw pong tumakbo ng vice president
31:09.6
hindi mo kailangan tumakbo,
31:12.6
dahil isang ticket na kayo,
31:13.6
but the other thing in the US is,
31:14.6
the vice president is automatically
31:15.6
the senate president
31:19.6
just in case na karoon ng tie,
31:25.6
pwede maging tiebreaker.
31:27.6
a certain degree of gravitas
31:29.6
and significant veto power
31:31.6
or swing vote power
31:33.6
ang vice presidente sa Amerika,
31:39.6
I'm talking about the power of the office
31:44.6
the US is super power,
31:46.6
Kahit ano ka lang sa US,
31:47.6
ang lakas mo na in international terms,
31:49.6
you get what I'm saying?
31:51.6
ang hihina ng position ng VP,
31:54.6
mayroon lang si Riza
31:55.6
pag tumakbo lang siya ng vice president,
32:00.6
I won't be surprised,
32:01.6
Robin Hood Padilla
32:02.6
will run as vice president
32:08.6
that's the game plan.
32:09.6
That's the game plan na si Robin Hood Padilla
32:10.6
will run as vice president
32:13.6
or at least his positioning for that,
32:16.6
it's not like vice presidential position
32:17.6
will be an easy one
32:18.6
because you'll have
32:19.6
Robin Hood Padilla
32:28.6
yung mga ganun types.
32:34.6
baka mamaya Grace Po pa,
32:35.6
Grace Po pa ang tumakbo ng vice president.
32:40.6
dapat tumakbo siyang vice president
32:42.6
para tumakbo daw si,
32:43.6
tumakbo na daw si Tito Soto
32:44.6
hindi na siya tumakbo
32:45.6
kasi family friend,
32:50.6
you get what I'm saying here?
32:52.6
hindi really clarity
32:53.6
or who is really gonna be
32:55.6
and ang problema ko is
32:56.6
the more there is
32:57.6
a lack of clarity on that,
32:59.6
the more hindi magkakonsolidate
33:01.6
ang pink movement.
33:04.6
probably the pink movement
33:05.6
should evolve into something else.
33:09.6
the old liberal opposition.
33:12.6
will be even more,
33:15.6
will be even more,
33:22.6
I don't know for that.
33:26.6
wala pa rin tayong clear figurehead.
33:28.6
what I'm glad to see
33:29.6
is yung mga ibang
33:30.6
key opposition figures
33:31.6
na napakatapang at magaling,
33:37.6
either they're taking themselves
33:38.6
out of the equation
33:39.6
para hindi sila manggugulo
33:40.6
or they're openly
33:41.6
already suggesting
33:43.6
or in the case of
33:46.6
he's openly suggesting
33:47.6
it should be Riza na.
33:50.6
kasi nagpapakita naman siya
33:51.6
ng qualities of leadership.
33:57.6
And yung mga nagsasabi na,
33:59.6
si Riza eh masyadong left,
34:00.6
si Riza eh masyadong ganyan.
34:05.6
the girl was trying to run
34:09.6
he's just too crazy
34:10.6
to be a president.
34:14.6
I don't disagree about
34:15.6
some part of what was said
34:17.6
just because you're,
34:20.6
we really don't know,
34:23.6
if you run it well,
34:24.6
you message it well,
34:25.6
you package it well,
34:26.6
you timing it well,
34:30.6
Tingnan mo nga si Digong,
34:33.6
malapit sa China,
34:34.6
malapit si ganyan,
34:38.6
I'm just saying, guys,
34:42.6
nagtatap na ng senya,
34:47.6
a clarity on that
34:48.6
kasi unless there's a clarity on that,
34:50.6
alanganin, guys eh.
34:55.6
Now, let's go to the last part
34:56.6
of our discussion today
34:57.6
kasi ang dami natin pwede
35:00.6
let me put it this way, guys.
35:05.6
we still have to talk about
35:06.6
our president, right?
35:09.6
how we always talk
35:12.6
like walk around BBM
35:13.6
as if he's not there.
35:15.6
BBM doesn't also help his case
35:16.6
kasi he's always abroad.
35:22.6
mga kaibigan natin,
35:23.6
sila, Ambassador Ramon,
35:24.6
they question the whole
35:25.6
Magellan Jr. thing
35:26.6
but let's be honest,
35:27.6
he does travel a lot.
35:29.6
I mean, he really,
35:30.6
really travels a lot.
35:31.6
I'm not saying super lot
35:33.6
who also travels a lot,
35:36.6
considering how gulo-bardagulan
35:38.6
the situation in the Philippines is,
35:40.6
tignan mo naman si Digong
35:41.6
nang gugulo parate,
35:43.6
tignan mo naman considering
35:44.6
how many problems
35:45.6
this country has and all,
35:47.6
and considering na
35:52.6
kaya nga yung sinabi ko,
35:53.6
yung kahinaan ni BBM
35:55.6
is that he neither has
35:59.6
articulate capacity
36:02.6
I mean, God bless his soul,
36:04.6
I had many disagreements
36:05.6
with Pinoy, right?
36:07.6
And whether this is
36:12.6
he was a good speaker,
36:14.6
I'll tell you that.
36:15.6
And di naman ako nagyayabang,
36:18.6
you guys have seen me,
36:20.6
Di naman ako nagyayabang,
36:21.6
I've been at the highest levels, right?
36:23.6
When I say someone is a good speaker,
36:25.6
probably I know what I'm talking about.
36:27.6
You know, I mean,
36:31.6
Magaling na speaker si Pinoy eh.
36:33.6
And ang impressive kay Pinoy,
36:35.6
talagang perfectly bilingual siya.
36:39.6
Like, kaya niya mag-speech
36:41.6
ng diretsyong Tagalog
36:46.6
and then kaya niya mag-speech
36:47.6
ng English na derederecho.
36:49.6
Now, what I have to double-check is,
36:53.6
I think Tita Arroyo,
36:56.6
I think Tita Arroyo can do three languages.
36:59.6
Filipino, English, and Spanish
37:03.6
na formal na magaling.
37:05.6
Of course, Kapampangan, Ilocano,
37:07.6
marunong din siya, magaling yan.
37:08.6
Baka, konting Bisaya rin,
37:09.6
I think magaling.
37:10.6
She speaks like six or seven languages
37:15.6
speaking of Aquino,
37:17.6
I mean, he was like that.
37:18.6
And then, tignan mo naman si Digong.
37:20.6
He doesn't even have to say it.
37:23.6
May reaction ka na kagad.
37:25.6
Alam mo yung magaganin niya,
37:27.6
magigigilin niya,
37:29.6
tapos itatiming niya,
37:30.6
tapos papatawa siya,
37:32.6
tapos gagawin siya.
37:35.6
both Pinoy and Duterte
37:37.6
had communication skills.
37:39.6
This is in no way, guys,
37:41.6
an endorsement of
37:46.6
But I cannot deny the audience impak.
37:48.6
I cannot deny the dark charisma,
37:52.6
whatever you want to call it.
37:55.6
Because I can see strength
37:57.6
when I see strength,
37:58.6
even if I don't agree with that strength
37:59.6
or I think that strength is being used
38:00.6
for the wrong purposes,
38:01.6
which clearly was the case.
38:03.6
Pinoy was a good speaker
38:05.6
in a very traditional sense of the word,
38:07.6
but also very humorous and all.
38:09.6
And then you go to BBM,
38:14.6
technically, wala naman problema.
38:16.6
Malinis naman yung mga speeches niya.
38:19.6
yung sinasabihin niya naman yung alamano, diba?
38:23.6
kung alamano lang,
38:24.6
lahat ng tao may alamano moments.
38:26.6
Kung marami kang sinasabi,
38:27.6
may alamano moments yan.
38:29.6
But in fairness naman,
38:31.6
kung titignan mo yung mga speeches ni BBM,
38:35.6
Maayos yung speech niya sa Australian Parliament.
38:37.6
Maayos naman sa ano.
38:45.6
ang gusto ng tao ganito,
38:48.6
yung conversational.
38:51.6
Yung makikita ng tao na
38:52.6
you're actually talking to them,
38:54.6
you're not talking at them.
38:56.6
Kasi the problem with,
38:58.6
I won't say script eh,
39:00.6
speeches, but diba?
39:02.6
I mean, you know?
39:05.6
ang dating niyan hindi conversational eh.
39:09.6
Ang dating niyan is balagtasan.
39:11.6
At magaling sa balagtasan si BBM.
39:13.6
Pero ang thing is,
39:15.6
yung balagtasan niya,
39:16.6
pang 1960-70s nung tatay niya.
39:18.6
I'm sure kung si Senyor ay nandito ngayon,
39:22.6
baka maladigong magsalita yun.
39:25.6
Even though, of course,
39:26.6
very articulate, well-educated lawyer si Senyor,
39:30.6
kumpara naman kay tatay, diba?
39:33.6
that's what I'm saying.
39:34.6
That's what I'm saying.
39:36.6
Yes, thank you for pointing that out.
39:38.6
Actually, kanina may kausap din ako.
39:39.6
We were talking about Cory Aquino.
39:41.6
Also, God bless her soul.
39:42.6
I know, I know, I know,
39:44.6
I've heard countless people
39:46.6
saying dismissive things about Cory na
39:48.6
sana kung Ninoy man lang ganyan.
39:50.6
I mean, I'm 100% sure
39:52.6
if si Ninoy Aquino ay hindi na martir
39:55.6
at, you know, he for some reason,
39:58.6
he, you know, act out,
40:01.6
you know, he's essentially survive
40:03.6
and then became the next Filipino president,
40:05.6
I'm sure Ninoy would have been a transformative leader.
40:07.6
Kasi ang galing din ng tao yan.
40:09.6
Matalino, mautak, medyo Machiavellian.
40:11.6
And then towards later in his life,
40:13.6
meron din conviction sa buhay,
40:16.6
all of those things.
40:18.6
Given na lahat yan.
40:19.6
At journalist din, diba?
40:20.6
Usually journalist,
40:22.6
I mean, ang tawag mo na,
40:23.6
real high quality journalist,
40:27.6
but even Cory Aquino, guys,
40:29.6
go on YouTube and check Cory Aquino.
40:34.6
Parang, Cory Aquino's speech after a coup,
40:36.6
yung parang tinitreten niya si Enrile,
40:39.6
yung openly chine-challenged niya si Enrile,
40:42.6
makita mo yung tapang side ni Cory Aquino.
40:45.6
And at the same time,
40:46.6
this is the Cory Aquino
40:50.6
you know, was the,
40:51.6
parang naka-Chinelas lang,
40:52.6
pumunta sa market,
40:56.6
you could say Cory Aquino also could make that switch.
40:58.6
Which I think not many people have appreciated
41:00.6
kasi ang problema is,
41:01.6
ang naalala natin
41:03.6
kay Cory Aquino is yung,
41:07.6
alam nyo na, diba?
41:09.6
Cory Aquino herself showed tremendous amount
41:11.6
of dexterity and dynamism
41:13.6
nung leader siya ng Philippines
41:15.6
through 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11,
41:19.6
depending on how you count it.
41:22.6
Crazy, crazy, crazy.
41:23.6
Diba yung mga sila hunasan,
41:24.6
yung RPG pa nila yung Malacanang.
41:27.6
yun yung medyo kulang talaga,
41:29.6
to be honest with BBM.
41:31.6
He just doesn't have any of these things.
41:36.6
it's one thing during elections, diba?
41:39.6
you win elections with poetry
41:41.6
but you govern with prose.
41:43.6
At yung prose yung kulang talaga
41:46.6
Ay, magandang idea yan ah.
41:50.6
Kaya gusto ko itong,
41:52.6
conversation natin
41:53.6
kasi napapaisip ako eh.
41:54.6
O, lumalabas yun ah.
41:58.6
O, kasi iwanan poetry.
42:02.6
Eh hindi na pwede
42:03.6
yung mga unity, unity na yan.
42:04.6
Hindi mo naman mapakain
42:05.6
sa taong unity na yan eh.
42:07.6
Tsaka anong unity?
42:08.6
Co-attempt sa Senate.
42:09.6
Co-attempt sa ano?
42:10.6
Co-attempt sa ganyan.
42:12.6
gina gina gina ganyan ka.
42:13.6
Pa, anong unity ang pinag-asapan dyan?
42:15.6
Eh walang unity, diba?
42:22.6
having said that,
42:24.6
katulad ng sinabi ko kahapon,
42:26.6
we still have to give credit to BBM
42:28.6
for at least getting one thing really right
42:30.6
and that's really the West Philippine Sea.
42:32.6
I mean, he really got it right.
42:34.6
And yung kanyang speech abroad,
42:36.6
trying to rally support around the world,
42:39.6
And the way he did it was very well.
42:41.6
because ang ganda nung effect
42:43.6
sa ate sa mga liyan.
42:44.6
Ayun, alam ko marami sa inyo
42:45.6
hindi impressed sa kanya.
42:47.6
sabi niya alam ano,
42:51.6
he makes a very good impression
42:53.6
on the Western allies and partners, etc.
42:57.6
Having said that,
43:00.6
having said that,
43:02.6
medyo nalungkot ako konti kasi
43:06.6
yun yung ginawarn ko eh na
43:11.6
sobrang kabaliktaran
43:13.6
nung nangyari nung panahon ni
43:17.6
So nung nandun ako sa Sydney,
43:20.6
dun sa first Australian-Asian inaugural summit,
43:22.6
talagang inaugural summit,
43:24.6
si Digong, no show.
43:27.6
ginaganin lang ng Australia,
43:29.6
yung mga geng-geng yan.
43:33.6
We are frontline state,
43:34.6
we have to stand together,
43:36.6
blah, blah, blah.
43:38.6
Ang ganda ng speed.
43:42.6
Yung meetings niya
43:45.6
sorry, in Italian.
43:48.6
Yung meetings niya
43:50.6
with the Filipino community in Australia.
43:52.6
Everything smooth.
43:55.6
Balik na naman dyan.
43:58.6
Yung pushing niya
43:59.6
for code of conduct.
44:01.6
Ang nakakalungkot ngayon is
44:03.6
yung mga kapitbahay na,
44:04.6
yung mga kapitbahay natin.
44:09.6
Ang Vietnam lang talagang matino.
44:11.6
At least yung Vietnam,
44:12.6
nag-push siya for
44:13.6
closer defense cooperation
44:14.6
between ASEAN and Australia
44:15.6
ng mga ASEAN countries.
44:21.6
yung first strategy,
44:22.6
then as far as ginamit ko yun,
44:23.6
exactly yan ang ginamit ko
44:25.6
kay Napoleon doon
44:27.6
sa isang Journal of Democracy article ko.
44:29.6
But going back to this,
44:30.6
hindi ko naman sinasabi na
44:35.6
parang naawa ako sa sarili natin ba yan?
44:38.6
finally I'm the president
44:39.6
saying all the right things,
44:40.6
doing all the right things.
44:43.6
Going to the right place,
44:44.6
right timing and all.
44:48.6
And then gaganyan din tayo
44:49.6
ng mga kapitbahay natin.
44:50.6
Yung kapitbahay natin dyan sa Malaysia,
44:53.6
na ruled by a guy na
44:55.6
dating fanboy ng Aquino administration,
45:00.6
liberal, progressive, whatever.
45:02.6
Kalahin mo pa naman,
45:04.6
pupunta siya sa Australia,
45:05.6
ibabash pa niya yung Australia and US
45:12.6
Ano to? Tatay Digong?
45:14.6
Nagko-compete siya kay Tatay Digong?
45:19.6
Naglo-lawyer siya for US.
45:21.6
Tapos binabash niya yung US about Middle East,
45:24.6
binabash niya yung about ano.
45:27.6
tignan mo naman yung ginagawa ng China sa Malaysia
45:29.6
dyan sa South China Sea.
45:31.6
Tignan mo naman yung mga sinabi ni Mahathir noon
45:35.6
at lahat ng mga kababalagan
45:36.6
ang ginawa ng China ng panon ni Najib
45:38.6
na napaka-corrupt na leader.
45:41.6
Wolf of Wall Street level,
45:42.6
mga kag-ika nangyari ng panon niya.
45:44.6
Ito yung disgrace impeach
45:46.6
yung prime minister ng Malaysia.
45:50.6
I mean, my goodness,
45:51.6
not impeach kasi, you know,
45:52.6
he was essentially booted out.
45:54.6
That's the one thing good about parliamentary
45:57.6
ibang mahabang usapan yun kasi
45:59.6
parliamentary system also allowed for
46:00.6
very bad leaders to stay in power
46:02.6
for very, very long time.
46:04.6
But, having said that,
46:08.6
going back to this,
46:09.6
ayan, sorry, may update lang na Nick Haley's
46:11.6
about to drop out of the race.
46:13.6
So, officially, it will be na Trump and Biden.
46:17.6
ano yun, mga ano yun,
46:20.6
ano yun, thunders.
46:24.6
ayan, hindi naman ako ano,
46:26.6
wala na bang iba sa US na pwede mag-compete?
46:30.6
going back dito guys,
46:31.6
actually, parang naawa ko sa atin
46:32.6
na parang ang isolated natin talaga.
46:35.6
Yung Malaysia nga,
46:36.6
naglo-lawyer pa siya na kay China,
46:38.6
punang alat tatay di ko.
46:39.6
Yung Singapore naman,
46:41.6
hindi na ako magsalita,
46:44.6
baka magtrabaho tayo sa Singapore.
46:51.6
hindi ko masisisi kasi
46:52.6
outgoing na si Jokowi.
46:53.6
So, tignan natin kay Prabowo.
46:54.6
Gulak na lang sa atin kay Prabowo.
46:56.6
Although, si Prabowo ay moments of ano rin yun.
46:58.6
So, tignan natin.
46:59.6
And then, Thailand.
47:01.6
Wala, ano na yan.
47:03.6
So, actually, Vietnam lang yung medyo mati.
47:06.6
But having said that,
47:08.6
guys, di nyo ba na,
47:15.6
Di ba parang weird na mas,
47:19.6
in common with Australia.
47:21.6
Yung host country from the other side.
47:25.6
kasi nga paalis na si Jokowi,
47:27.6
Prabowo nyo yung administration,
47:28.6
kaka-eleksyon lang nila nung Valentine's Day.
47:31.6
going back to here,
47:37.6
we have more in common with countries
47:40.6
all the way North America,
47:44.6
kaysa yung mga immediate ng kapitbahay natin
47:46.6
na nilalawyer pa sa China.
47:48.6
Nakaka-lungkot yun, guys.
47:50.6
Nakakalungkot talaga yun.
47:52.6
mas malapit sila kay Digong
47:54.6
kaysa sa sentimento ng taong bayan.
48:00.6
yung tamang kailangan gawin.
48:03.6
tignan nyo naman yung ginagawa ng China sa Pilipinas.
48:06.6
Grabe naman yung ginagawa nila, guys.
48:11.6
Grabe naman yung ginagawa nila.
48:13.6
Di ba pinost natin siyang,
48:15.6
baka magti 3 million views na yan,
48:18.6
yung pinost natin na in-edit ko.
48:19.6
Ako mismo nag-edit yan ah.
48:21.6
nung ni-release ng, ano,
48:24.6
nung ni-release ng,
48:26.6
mga kaibigan natin dyan sa Philippine Coast Guard,
48:30.6
kailangan ko yata turuan.
48:31.6
Nilagay, lagay, lagay, nilagay.
48:32.6
Sabi ko, hindi, hindi, hindi.
48:33.6
Kailangan nalagay ng ganun.
48:35.6
i-emphasize talaga.
48:36.6
Yung grabe yung ginagawa ng China dito.
48:38.6
So, first of all,
48:40.6
ah, hindi, may music pala siya.
48:45.6
Alin ba dyan walang music?
48:47.6
Guys, kasi yung copyright yung problem ko eh.
48:50.6
ah, hindi, tanggalin ko na lang audio.
48:54.6
Yung ginawa natin ito, guys.
48:56.6
Yung pinakita ko na.
48:58.6
Ay, huwag na kayo tumingin sa TikTok
49:00.6
kasi nasa sensor ko.
49:03.6
Diba, diba, diba?
49:05.6
Hindi mo nakita yan.
49:06.6
Wala kang nakita.
49:12.6
Kung hindi nilagay nung tire na ganun,
49:15.6
And then, just when we thought
49:16.6
that was really the crazy thing na ginawa ng China,
49:20.6
Tingnan mo naman yung ginawa niya dito.
49:27.6
Ginawater canon nila ng ganyan.
49:29.6
Wasak yung window and all.
49:31.6
Baka may din China riguro yung window natin.
49:33.6
Hindi, pero grabe.
49:35.6
Kaya sino yung, yung, ano,
49:36.6
makapili na lang yan?
49:38.6
Ang isa yung sabi na,
49:39.6
ayun na lang, water lang yan.
49:41.6
Wala, wala lang yan.
49:42.6
Guys, apat na na-injure ng Philippine Navy personal dyan.
49:46.6
Sino ulit yung thunders na, ano,
49:48.6
yung pro-China na wala lang yan?
49:50.6
Na, ah, tubig lang yan.
49:53.6
Hindi yan mag-drama.
49:55.6
Tingnan natin kung anong mangyari.
49:57.6
Kumakais kayo dyan.
50:02.6
Anong sinasabi na ito?
50:04.6
Yellow yung light, okay?
50:08.6
Pabash nyo pa ako.
50:10.6
Ang gwapo nyo, ah.
50:16.6
Medyo na, na-sad ako dyan.
50:18.6
Kaya guys, nai-gets ko yung, yung feeling ng iba na
50:21.6
hayaan nyo na yung ASEAN.
50:22.6
Na-worse than useless daw ang ASEAN, sabi nyo yung iba.
50:27.6
Na-enabler daw sila ng China.
50:31.6
Nag-lawyer na for China yung isa dyan, eh.
50:33.6
Na, may problema na nga silang, ano,
50:36.6
directly dyan sa West Philippines yun, no?
50:38.6
But, nakakalunggot lang talaga.
50:41.6
Tapos, ginaganyan lang tayo ng China,
50:43.6
wala man lang statement ng ASEAN na directly criticizing China.
50:47.6
Yes, may statement sila kanina, as in few hours ago na,
50:50.6
calling on all parties, restraint, restraint.
50:53.6
Ang, may restraint naman tayo.
50:56.6
Ang China, walang restraint.
50:57.6
And then, you're talking as if it's all side at the same moral,
51:01.6
on the same moral plane?
51:03.6
That's ridiculous.
51:04.6
Masyadong pa-safe na walang kwenta yung ganyan positioning na yan.
51:08.6
Kaya hindi ako magtataka na more and more,
51:10.6
ang sasabihin ng mga ibang Pinoy, officials yan,
51:12.6
walang kwenta yung ASEAN na yan, huwag na tayo mag-invest dyan.
51:15.6
Doon na tayo sa mga Western allies and friends natin.
51:17.6
Which, again, is sad kasi, eh.
51:20.6
At enough na dyan.
51:21.6
Dito tayo sa Southeast Asia.
51:23.6
Alangan naman, isolated din tayo dito.
51:25.6
But at the same time, they're not giving us a lot to hold on to.
51:28.6
So it's a very tricky, tricky situation for the Philippines.
51:31.6
And I'm just sad because I know ASEAN can do better than this.
51:34.6
Kung sana lang magaling yung mga leaders ng mga kapitbahay natin bansa.
51:38.6
Kasi for all of his shortcomings and all,
51:41.6
at least BBM is getting this question right.
51:44.6
Pero yung mga kapitbahay naman natin dyan, tama yan.
51:47.6
Apologies talaga.
51:49.6
Na-blur. Talagang grabe yung iba dyan.
51:54.6
Pero then again, Vietnam is Vietnam.
51:56.6
May sariling pag-iisip din yan kung may country din yan.
51:59.6
But honestly, yun yung nakakalungkot.
52:01.6
So I'm just hoping na I'm not a fan, I'm very critical of Prabowo.
52:06.6
But let's just see what will the UNITEAM of Indonesia do.
52:09.6
Kasi may UNITEAM din sila.
52:11.6
Si Prabowo, yung sanilang dating dictator, na kwasyonableng tao, na may human rights violation.
52:16.6
Tapos yung vice president.
52:18.6
Vice president niya, yung anak ni outgoing President Jokowi.
52:21.6
So parang yun yung sarang nila.
52:23.6
So, I don't know.
52:26.6
I don't know. Kaya I was having long conversations dun sa isang class natin.
52:30.6
Ano ba talagang gagawin ng Pilipinas?
52:32.6
Kasi mukhang waepek talaga itong ASEAN 10 na ito eh.
52:36.6
Wala tayong makukuha dyan sa West Philippine Sea.
52:40.6
Siyempre, ayaw naman natin burn bridges.
52:42.6
But at the same time, we have to push for something different.
52:45.6
Ako siguro working with Vietnam,
52:47.6
kung Viet Namang na fully decent government in Indonesia in the coming months,
52:51.6
maybe that's the only way forward, yung trilateral.
52:53.6
At yun yung sinulat natin sa Nikkei Asia article.
52:55.6
You can check that.
52:56.6
Please check that. May article ako dyan na that's the way to work around ASEAN deficiencies.
53:01.6
Go mini-lateral and trilateral.
53:04.6
Ganun lang talaga.
53:05.6
Kasi otherwise, malabo talaga itong ASEAN 10.
53:08.6
Tingnan mo naman yung statement na loobas.
53:10.6
Tapos this year, Laos.
53:12.6
Laos is a great country. They're nice people and all.
53:15.6
Masyado silang dependent sa China talaga eh.
53:18.6
So, diba yung China, ginawa po yung high-speed railway nila.
53:22.6
Buti pa sila. Nakakuha sila ng magandang railway sa China.
53:24.6
Tayo kahit bigong. Wala tayong nakukuha.
53:26.6
Na Duterte si Duterte. Ito yung article na sinasabi ko sa Nikkei Asia.
53:31.6
ASEAN members are finding ways around block paralysis.
53:34.6
Mini-lateral cooperation bring together Philippines-Vietnam.
53:37.6
And hopefully also the next Indonesian administration.
53:40.6
Again, I'm saying this even though I'm not a fan of communist regimes.
53:43.6
I'm no fan of Vietnam.
53:46.6
I'm sorry, of Indonesia's incoming president. Gano'n gano'n.
53:51.6
Ba, biglang nag-off tong TikTok ko ah.
53:53.6
Suspicious talaga tong mga to.
53:57.6
Yeah, Vietnam has bad blood with China.
54:00.6
But the problem is, they're so economically dependent on China.
54:03.6
A lot of their intermediate goods and even stuff,
54:05.6
some of the stuff that they're exporting actually are all imported from China.
54:08.6
And ang problema ng Vietnam is, unlike Pilipinas, they are border.
54:12.6
They have land borders with China and with Cambodia.
54:16.6
So ang dami nilang points of vulnerability.
54:19.6
So medyo yung room for maneuver nila ay medyo limitado.
54:22.6
Unlike the Philippines, wala silang superpower allies.
54:25.6
The last time they had an ally, Soviet Union, inabandon lang sila nung 80s.
54:29.6
So anyway, I'll keep it there, mga kameta.
54:32.6
I'm just saying, for a moment, let's put aside some of our political differences.
54:37.6
Alright, I have huge issues with some of the policies of the current administration.
54:42.6
I have huge issues with the authoritarian nostalgia,
54:44.6
with all of this Bagong Pilipinas blah blah nonsense.
54:49.6
I am all for Bagong Pilipinas, by the way.
54:51.6
I'm referring to the...
54:53.6
Alam mo naman, it's really the Marcos era or whatever, di ba?
54:57.6
But this is guys, itong usapan, national interest na ito guys eh.
55:02.6
Usapan, national interest na ito.
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Kaya honest, I felt for our country.
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I really felt our country na parang isolated natin in our own region.
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It feels really bad to be like this.
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But, the good news is, we have most important countries in the world coming out in support of us.
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And hopefully, it will be more and more than just words.
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It will be more and more than just words.
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And hopefully, it will be more and more in terms of concrete assistance, concrete cooperation and all.
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On that note, thank you very much guys.
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Maraming salamat.
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I hope you appreciate itong style natin na mga open conversations.
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So, as I promised,
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I went through each of the items I mentioned in the headline.
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So, I covered them all.
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So, although mukhang ano na lang ako nagkakwentong Barbero,
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actually, I'm following a train of thought.
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I'm staying faithful doon sa mga nilagay natin dyan.
55:58.6
Dapat nilagay ulit natin si Quiboloy para too much na parating natin pinag-usapan ng Quiboloy.
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Napag-usapan lang natin siya in the context of Riza and Robin Hood.
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Because two of them could be competitors as the next vice presidential candidate.
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Unless Riza will be the figurehead and there'll be rallying effect around there.
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Which I think is giving everything the right way forward.
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On that note, thank you very much.
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Maraming salamat sa lahat ng mga dumalo doon sa ating mga talks over the past few...
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Over the past week, essentially.
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Doon sa talk natin sa Leon Gallery.
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God willing, we're looking to more talks on Philippine history, etc.
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I mean, I'm hoping...
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Sana may funding tayong publisher.
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I'll make a whole book.
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Like Philippine secret history and put all of those things I write about Rizal and all.
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So there's more I want to discuss.
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50s, 60s, 30s, 20s, jazz age.
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So much to discuss.
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So ishi-share ko sa inyo kung God willing ito mga open public events.
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And also thank you so much doon sa mga dumalo sa BBC talk natin kahapon.
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I really appreciate it.
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Again, I'm not saying you came there for me.
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But those who came there because they saw our announcements and all.
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Thank you so much.
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I really, really appreciate it.
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Believe me, I really, really appreciate it.
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Nagpapatawal na ako kayo ng humor and all of that.
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I'm always happy when I see yung mga kameta sa mga events, real life events, taking picture, showing my respect and showing my appreciation.
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And also seeing your appreciation.
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On that note, God bless and talk to you soon.
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Have a good evening.
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Maraming salamat.
