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00:00.0
So did you in any way pursue this hearing because of the threat of the ICC coming into the Philippines
00:08.3
and the ICC supposedly ready to issue a warrant of arrest against you and former President Duterte?
00:18.7
Has this turned to be that kind of war?
00:21.9
No, no, no, no. Let's be fair, let's be fair in treating issues.
00:28.6
First, ako'y naniniwala paulit-ulit na sinasabi ng ating Pangulo Bumbong Marcos
00:35.0
na never niyang papasokin ang ICC at never siya mag-cooperate.
00:41.5
At sinabi ng ating DOJ na kung sino man yung mag-cooperate,
00:49.8
government official, government employees ng Pilipinas, including uniformed personnel,
00:54.9
particularly the PNP, sino man mag-cooperate.
00:57.9
Mag-cooperate sa ICC ay mananagot sa mga existing laws. Magkakaso sila.
01:02.9
Sinabi na ng DOJ yan, ako'y naniniwala, the President is very clear in his declaration.
01:09.4
Naniniwala pa ako kay Pangulo Marcos na hindi niya gagawin yan.
01:13.9
Sinabi niya, paulit-ulit na kayo, para tayo sirang plaka nito.
01:17.6
So bakit ako mag-conduct ng investigation para doon?
01:21.5
In fact, it would be...
01:23.8
Sabat said this is an retaliation.
01:27.9
In fact, it would be detrimental on my part
01:31.4
kung nag-conduct ako ng investigation and I got the ire of the President
01:35.0
at nag-galit siya sa akin, baka pwede niya pang papasokin ang ICC
01:38.6
dahil nga mag-galit siya sa akin, bakit ako nag-conduct ang investigation.
01:42.8
But my God, Karen, my objective here is to prevent the leaks, to cure the leakage.
01:50.6
But do we really need legislation to cure agency leakages?
01:57.1
I mean, is legislation...
01:57.9
Is legislation needed for that or frankly, it's just tighter operating rules in any agency?
02:04.8
Because there are leakages also with the PNP, the AFP, everywhere there are leakages, right?
02:10.4
So do we need legislation for leakages?
02:13.4
Well, if you think hindi kailangan, hindi siguro kailangan.
02:17.6
For po sa akin, mukhang kailangan.
02:19.6
Dahil nga, hindi natin pwedeng papabayaan na palagi na lang ganon.
02:24.0
Nag-leak yung mga dokumento na yan.
02:27.9
Dokuments, paano na lang kung yung ating mga classified, security classified documents na mga top secret
02:36.2
ay napupunta na sa China o napupunta na sa mga kalaban natin, ano mangyari sa Pilipinas?
02:43.1
Wala na. Wasak ang Pilipinas pag ganun.
02:47.0
So kailangan talagang ma-actionan natin yan.
02:49.9
Kailangan talaga through legislation.
02:51.9
Kasi nakita ko, meron tayong existing na dalawang batas.
02:55.9
Yung Grup and Corrupt Practices Act.
02:57.9
At yung Code of Conduct and Ethical Standards of Government Officials and Employees
03:05.5
na pwedeng mababayulit through unauthorized leaking of these documents.
03:11.6
Pero parang hindi naramdaman yung batas na yan.
03:15.0
Hindi nagagamit, hindi kinatakutan.
03:17.4
So, i-emphasize natin. Tingnan natin kung pwede ba natin i-amend,
03:21.8
dagdaga natin ng penalty, graver penalty,
03:24.9
or gagawa talaga.
03:26.8
I-emphasize natin yung panibagong batas that will address,
03:29.0
solely address to that, para matakot itong mga tao na walang pakundangang nagli-leak ng mga classified documents.
03:36.9
Okay. But then, is that really the concern?
03:39.4
Because isn't the bigger concern for the ordinary Filipino is this.
03:43.6
If it was true, if it was true that a former senator and a famous actress were really doing illegal drugs,
03:54.6
isn't the bigger concern is why were they?
03:56.8
Why were they let off the hook?
03:59.1
Why wasn't there, I'll be honest, a full-blown investigation?
04:02.6
Why didn't the PDEA or even the PNP pursue it?
04:06.1
Because ang ordinaryong Pilipino, kapag nahuli mong nagdadrugs, patay na.
04:12.0
Di ba? O nakakulong.
04:13.7
Pero ang mensahe dito, kapag ikaw ay makapangyaringan, kapag ikaw ay sikat,
04:20.2
is you're let off the hook.
04:22.0
I think that's the bigger issue here.
04:24.1
Is why didn't the PNP, the PDEA,
04:26.8
or any of the authorities act on it if it was true?
04:32.6
If there was a basis, why did they just let it slide?
04:37.3
They won't let that go if it was an ordinary citizen.
04:40.7
Kaya nga, Karin, inibitahan natin si Atty. Paquito Otsua para mag-shedlight siya
04:47.0
dahil siya ang nagpahinto allegedly ng operasyon na yan.
04:51.5
So, yun ah, nakikita mo.
04:53.8
An executive secretary halting the operation,
04:56.8
so that, that answers your question.
04:59.3
Kaya natin pinapatawag siya para mag-explain siya.
