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Tapos ipapaliwanag din kasi ito ni Sen. Pia Cayetano.
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Unang-una, hindi ko na gusto itong Senate hearings in aid of legislation.
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We are in the same position with Sen. Miriam Santiago
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na sinabi niya na naging senador siya.
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Sinabi niya na there's nothing substantial that was ever created
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because of the Senate hearings in aid of legislation.
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Ngayon mga kapatid natin, expound natin yan further.
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Tapos tignan natin kung gaano ginugulo ni Rafi Tulfo yung Senate hearings na yan.
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And what is the big problem dyan sa mga open...
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Yung sinabi ko nga sa inyo, yung fishing expedition yung ginagawa nila.
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Nag-open sila ng parang sabi nila can of worms daw.
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Pero hit or miss eh.
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Kasi nga parang most of them are based on speculation.
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Pero overall, it's still a waste of time.
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O, pakinggan natin ito mga kapatid natin.
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This is about the notice.
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Napag-usapan na po itong issue na ito.
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Nung April 2, it was brought up by Sen. Tulfo.
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Napag-usapan nga yung issue.
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Pero that is actually not the issue.
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Ang nangyari dyan, itong si Rafi Tulfo,
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nag-o-open ng can of worms.
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Is that the proper place to open that can?
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Ipapaniwanag din kasi nito eh.
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You're wasting the time.
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Isipin nyo na lang ito.
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Mag-i-hearing kayo tungkol sa isang bagay.
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Tapos iba yung pag-uusapan nyo.
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Ah, hindi na akong magsasalita.
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At tignan natin si Pia Cayetano.
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Lumaki lang siya.
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Last week, it was mentioned
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sa interview yata ni Sen. Jimmy.
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nag-issue po ang committee
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So dito, mga kapatid natin,
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pinapaliwanag ni Sen. Bongo
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na meron naman daw actual notice
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Wala nang problema dun sa notice
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and then yung mga...
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Junior received naman
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ng mga Senators' offices.
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with due respect,
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what was the notice for?
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Because from my understanding,
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the notice that was posted
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is regarding bullying
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was it hospital setting?
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That was the notice we received.
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So it is very possible
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who is not inclined
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to attend a hearing
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not knowing that there's going to be
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another topic taken.
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one of the best characteristics
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it must be specific.
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Sinabi ko rin sa inyo,
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mga kabatas natin,
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na kapag kayo ay magpapasan ng batas
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or you will be discussing
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anything about the law,
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It must be specific.
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In fact, yung batas,
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sinabi niya nga dyan na,
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well, the law itself says
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that one of the parameters
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if you are going to pass a law
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should describe the law.
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Ibig sabihin yan,
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basahin mo pa lang yung title
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o tungkol saan yung batas na ito.
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Tama yung sinabi ni, ano,
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Ice Spirit o Huwagbate.
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Ang nangyayari dito,
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kasi mga kabatas natin,
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you can see actually
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that whenever they think about
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in passing a particular law,
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doon sa mga Senate
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hearings in aid of legislation,
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Tulad nga yung sinabi ko sa inyo,
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specific intentions
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para magkaroon sila
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ng maayos na produkto.
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Bakit ko sinabing produkto?
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Kasi let's think about it this way.
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Kunwari gagawa ka ng sardinas.
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Gagawa ka ng sardinas.
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Anong kailangan mo?
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Ingredients para sa sardinas,
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lata para sa sardinas.
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Yun ang dadalhin mo, diba?
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Para makagawa ka ng sardinas.
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Ganon din sa batas.
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Ngayon, ang problema dito,
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mga kapatid natin,
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gagawa ka ng sardinas,
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at saka pang meatloaf,
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Ano na yung lasa?
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Pero ang pinakapunto ko dito,
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mga kapatid natin,
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is their intention.
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Senate investigation
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in aid of legislation,
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do you really want to pass a law?
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Or do you just want to
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Do you just want to grandstand?
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Kasi nga kung gusto mong gumawa ng batas,
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magdala ka ng ingredients para sa batas na pinapatupad
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Hindi yung kukuha ka,
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parang tsapsuy eh.
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Hindi tsapsuy ang batas.
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Eto ang sinabi, nawala sa main topic,
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singit ng sikit ang topic,
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at mag-grandstanding.
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That's what Rafi Tulfo is very famous for.
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Tuloy natin yung sasabihin niya.
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I think that is the important point
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that we should be discussing,
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Mr. President. What is the point of
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a notice if matters
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beyond the notice
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are going to be taken up intentionally?
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Of course kung nabanggit
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and then the chairman, you know,
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on the side is, oh, pakituloy lang yung
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issue na yun. But to intentionally
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have a hearing on a subject
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matter that is not
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contained in the notice and
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your resource persons will
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have a problem there
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because they're not ready.
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Nagkaroon na ng problema
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ng ganyan noon. Si Rafi
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Tulfo din. Nagkaroon ng hearing.
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Tapos sinasabi nung isang,
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anong-anong-ano yun, sinabi nung ina,
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sabi niya, I thought
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your honor, this hearing
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is about house bill number ganto-ganto
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ganyan-ganyan. Tapos pinapaproduce
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siya ng kahit anong dokumento.
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maalala yun eh. Sa sobrang dami
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nang ginawa niya, hindi ko na talaga matandaan.
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gusto lang ma-perceive as matapang,
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maangas dahil bumabangga sa malalaking
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tao at mayayaman.
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Class warfare ulit.
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Kaya nga sinabi ni ano eh.
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Senator Miriam Santiago na
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there's nothing substantial
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that ever came out of
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Senate hearings in the aid of legislation.
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more than 12 years ago.
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If I'm not mistaken.
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It's the same thing.
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yata yun, oo tama, tama.
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PCSO nga yata yun.
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mga kabatas natin eh.
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Yun ang issue dyan eh.
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Sabi ni Alfredo Palita,
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mukha kang stress. Hahaha.
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At least mukha lang
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Di ba? Hindi sa lighting yan.
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Bakit yung lighting ko dito eh. Tapos yung
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Ano ba yung tsura ko dyan?
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Camera ko, camera lang ng ano eh. Kaya hindi makita yung
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Pero ganyan talaga.
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Naiiwan ko yung camera ko sa, yung
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magandang camera ko sa Manila.
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Yung camera ko, ito lang sa ano?
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Integrated camera lang ito.
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sometimes six hearings
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simultaneously going on.
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And we have other obligations. How would
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we know, Mr. President? How
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do we properly inform
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ourselves? Because that is the purpose
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of a normal system. Yes. Yes.
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But to... Absolutely
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correct. You cannot, there's no buts
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You have rules. You have to
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follow the rules.
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ano lang eh, kaguluhan lang eh.
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Mekos-mekos na lang eh.
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long paragraph. So, nabanggit naman
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doon sa kanyang notice. In other words,
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proper naman yung procedure.
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Actually, actually,
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not, that was not
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Siningit nga lang yun.
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Tapos, yun na yung pinag-usapan.
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Walang kwenta na nga yung mga Senate hearings
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Pasok po siya, Mr. President. Pasok po siya.
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the, ano, what is the
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number one characteristic of law?
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It should be specific. Ngayon,
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pasok po siya. Pilit.
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Rafi Tulfo nga mismo nagsabi,
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they opened a can of worms.
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You're not supposed to be opening a can
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Senate hearings in aid of legislation
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because when you go to Senate hearings in aid
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of legislation, you must have a particular
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law na that you're trying to
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pass. You have a particular
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problem that you're trying to solve.
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that's not how it's supposed to be.
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Siyempre kapag kunwari
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your title is vague,
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pwede mong ipasok. Actually, ang gagawin ko
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nalang title, pag ako, pupunta ako
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dyan, ah, proposal to
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make another law about something.
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Pasok naman siya.
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Lahat. So kahit ano
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nalang yung pag-usapan natin doon, pasok naman siya.
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Pasok naman lahat.
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Pasok siya sa rules natin.
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Salamat, Mr. President.
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Pasok siya sa rules. Yung rules na sinasabi nyo
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Yung notice. Pero yung notice nyo,
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insufficient. Yun yung sinasabi ni Pia.
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Very clear, as far as I'm concerned, of course,
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I will not debate with my
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majority leader, but as a former
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majority leader myself, three times,
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I can see that the
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rules in this particular case were followed.
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I think, Mr. President, it's also important
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Hindi nga kasi yun yung pinag-uusapan
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lang yun. Yun ang nare-reklamo ni
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Wala pa tayo sa friendship bill, ha?
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Anyway mga kapatid natin
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Yun lang naman ang gusto kong klaruhin dyan
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Bakit itong Senado
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Ang gulo-gulo na nga ng mga Senate hearings
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In aid of legislation nyo
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Yung mga pagkocontempt nyo
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Binabaliktad ng Supreme Court
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Sinasabi illegal yung pagkakontempt
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Kasi hindi humabol sa due process
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Itong simpleng rules nyo rin naman
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For you to properly
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Inform other people
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Bakit hindi nyo gawin at ayaw nyo gawin
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The rights of patients
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But the privileged speech
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The two privileged speeches
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Were not referred
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So how would a Senator
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Know that that specific topic
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And as mentioned by one of the sponsors
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The complete set of officers were there
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How would the Senator know
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That that whole agenda would be covered today
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Ang problema kasi yan
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If you are being caught
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And you were surprised
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You're caught unprepared
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And you were surprised
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You're just wasting time
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Kahit sa korte ganyan
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Kapag hindi prepared yung abogado
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Magagalit yung judge
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Are you wasting my time counsel?
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Did you come prepared?
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But that whole topic was there
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And even the sponsor
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That they were complete
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It's a good thing he had decided to attend
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Because yung buong scope
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Nung kanyang topic
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And then last point
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I'd like to raise Mr. President
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Would you like to
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Enumeration of the powers
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Of the different committees
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Subsection 2 says
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On accountability of public officers
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And investigations
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Investigation of any matter
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Of public interest
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On its own initiative
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Or brought to its attention
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By any member of the senate
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So it is only the
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Blue ribbon committee
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That has its place
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Under its own initiative
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Those are rules ha
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Nagbabasa siya ng rules nila dyan
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Hindi yan invento-invento
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That I've been a senator
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I filed resolutions
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In my own committee
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Following these rules
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Because my understanding is
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Ginulo kasi ni Ravi Tulfo
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The blue ribbon committee
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On its own initiative
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In a time of emergency
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The committee on energy
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To have a hearing
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What is the purpose
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Of this on its own initiative
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Under the blue ribbon committee powers
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If everybody else can do it
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Minimekos-mekos kasi
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Your own rules anymore
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It's only for the capital rules
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Hindi ko po sinaswapang yun
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E di palitan natin
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Para hindi magmukhang tangay
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Yung mga sumusunod
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Madiba yung sinabi ko
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Hindi naman masama yung tangay
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Diba parang hindi magmukhang tangay
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Yung mga sumusunod
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Hindi naman masama yung tangay
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Pinapahirapan mo lang yung sarili mo
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May cut the process naman
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Sabi ko nga sa inyo eh
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Rapido po is destroying, changing
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The very fabric of reality
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Pinapahirapan mo ba yung sarili mo
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Because we just have to be clear about the rules
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We are a institution
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Anong rules, rules?
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Susunod kayo sa rules
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So that we can do our job properly
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So I humbly submit
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That we submit these queries to the
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Yeah, and change the rules
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Nagmumukhang tangay yung mga sumusunod
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Discuss it with our legal
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Heads and then properly guide us
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Mr. President, thank you
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But just for the record
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We amended the rules of procedure governing inquiries
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In native legislation, Your Honor
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And under section 2
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Initiation of inquiry, it's very clear
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It used to be, I recall
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It used to be the Blue Ribbon Committee
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Actually immediately
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Not following the 3-day rule
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Parang immediate yung
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Investigation on its own
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However, we amended and strengthened
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The rules of procedure
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And added the section 2
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We can have the committee on rules
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Come out with the legal
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And final decision on this particular issue
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Di nagdagay niyo ng section 2
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Pero hindi pa rin sinabi
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Na motopropyo kahit sino
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Respect the issues raised
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In today's session
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And there's always room for improvement
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And we are talking about some other matters
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Mr. President with regard to our
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Anyway, makapasalan niya
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Magpupuntaan kasi ako, Tina
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Maraming salamat sa inyo
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At syempre tulong na lagi sa sinasabi
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Matulog po tayo ng mahimbing
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Dahil alam natin na natutulog ng mahimbing
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Siya yung laging panalo
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Hindi pa tayo tapos
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Paalam po pati samantala
