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Author Photo by: stevesmi Rating: 0
Oct 09 2019, 6:38pm CST ~ 1 week, 2 days ago. 
Una vs Muna - too similar to my mind, apart from enclitic vs adjective.
Would somebody explain to me the difference(s) pleez ?
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Author Photo BoraMac Rating: 0
Oct 10 2019, 2:14pm CST ~ 1 week, 1 day ago. 
Yes...a relationship that has caught my ear too...I'll defer to someone who can provide the deeper connection.
 
I wish related words would always be presented together. Muna I picked up about 10 years ago...took a waitress named Una to teach me the rest about 3 years ago. Its easier to get them together - - systematically - - than live in ignorance until the connection is made by some happenstance.
 
Great question....thanks for any insights.
 
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Author Photo TLDCAdmin Rating: 0
Oct 10 2019, 3:02pm CST ~ 1 week, 1 day ago. 
@stevesmi @BoraMac
 
I could use a native speaker's insight on this, too...
 
I know both can mean "first".
 
"Muna" is considered an enclitic and "una" is not.
"Muna" can also mean "in the meantime" or "for the time being" and "una" cannot.
 
If you look at the example sentences in this dictionary, you'll see "muna" is often used as an enclitic, whereas "una" is more commonly used as an adjective (unang heart transplant, unang kahilingan, unang distrito, unang araw, etc.)
 
www.tagaloglessons.c om/words/una.php
www.tagaloglessons.c om/words/muna.php
 
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Author Photo leosmith Rating: 0
Oct 10 2019, 11:56pm CST ~ 1 week, 0 days ago. 
Una is an adjective, but muna is an enclitic particle which makes it an adverb.
Ex: Kahapon ang unang beses na pumunta ako. = Yesterday was the first time I went.
Ex: Kahapon pumunta muna ako. = Yesterday I went first.
Notice that una is modifying a noun and muna a verb above. Of course these are not the only uses of adjectives and adverbs, but it's the simplest way I could think of explaining the difference.
 
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Author Photo BoraMac Rating: 0
Oct 11 2019, 12:00pm CST ~ 6 days ago. 
Muna seems to me to be used when the speaker is emphasizing..."BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE...we do this first" and might continue on "to be sure" sigurado...or even "ganito" we do it like this.
 
So you might also hear "Muna agad"...right away first.
 
And once you get the "before" notion...then "Bago" can come into use...
 
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Author Photo leosmith Rating: 0
Oct 11 2019, 7:14pm CST ~ 6 days ago. 
@BoraMac Bago can be either an adjective (bagong taon) or an adverb (bago pumunta ako), but I think una/muna are stuck in there respective adj/adv roles. I could be wrong though.
 
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Author Photo TheFrozenMuffin Rating: 0
Oct 13 2019, 1:27pm CST ~ 4 days ago. 
This is one of those situation where you need to understand how to use a word by sentence examples.
 
Kailangin ko gawin ito muna.
First, I need to do this.
 
Where I lived, you were equally likely to hear this too:
Primero, Kailangin ko gawin ito.
First, I have to do this.
This is used especially if u are going to say things you will do afterwards, use Segundo for second, etc.
 
Ito ang unang bagay na Kailangin ko gawin.
This is the first thing I need to do.
 
Kailangin ko unahin ito.
I need to prioritize/do this.
 
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Author Photo leosmith Rating: 0
Oct 13 2019, 7:45pm CST ~ 4 days ago. 
Kailangin ko gawin ito muna. First, I need to do this.

@TheFrozenMuffin are you sure this sentence is correct? Muna is enclitic, and this sentence seems to only have one clause so it belongs in the only enclitic cluster from what I've learned:
Kailangin ko munang gawin ito.
 
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Author Photo TheFrozenMuffin Rating: 0
Oct 13 2019, 8:43pm CST ~ 4 days ago. 
@leosmith That sounds and looks correct. But if I hear muna at the end, it sounds more emphasized.
But disclaimer here, where I lived, ilocano was primary language.
 
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